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    Wink AMD 3800X Asus Tuf B450M-PRO Gaming Vega 64 Liquid Cooling Extravaganza ;)

    So.
    I was just planning to get an AMD board, becaue my 4K encodes were taking up to 3 days to complete on my PC.

    As usual, one thing led to another, and i ended up changing the whole lot except the GPU and most of the water cooling.
    My i5 3570k mATX board had very hot VRM heatsinks, whilst not doing much, when I took it apart for a GPU change, and CPU H100i AIO relocation to the front.
    The side was off, so the airflow through the case was disturbed i think, at the time.

    So, I needed a mATX AM4 board, due to already having a 2nd, new Fractal Design Arc Mini R2 waiting for a couple of years now.
    I really like the case airflow and watercooling capabilities, so i bought another one a couple of years ago or so for my next build.
    Though mATX was gonna be huge, and i'd get a Maximus Gene or whichever the mATX AM3/4 asus board was.

    So good mATX AM4 boards are rare as F.

    I decided on the Asus Tuf B450M-PRO Gaming, because I thought it had a really good VRM.
    Contrary to what BuildZoid thinks, i think its actually quite good, even if they did only double some of the components.
    The Stock VRM heatsinks are actually pretty damn good, even though i'm not pushing things too much yet.

    It also has two M2 NVMe slots.
    Top One for boot (Samsung EVO 512GB PCIe 3 x4) and lower one for Games (Crucial P1 1TB PCie 3 x4@ PCIe 3 x2).
    Both have EK M2 Heatsinks on them (lots of EK stuff here actually lol )

    The vega64 is brought over from my old PC, with the EK full block.

    The DDR4 is GSkill 2x8GB F4-3200C14D-16GVK, which should be Samsung B-Dies, @3800C16-16-16-16 1.4V
    63.1ns latency, so far.
    Infinity Fabric at 1900MHz, 1:1 with the memory. Tried 2000MHz earlier, without any voltage changes, and got a hard lock,which required a battery removal (CLRCMOS jumper didn't work).




    Only put the 3800X CPU in the board this afternoon, booted and updated the Bios, installed Windows etc, with a 2700 acouple of weeks ago.

    Been waiting on the cooling bits and pieces, where I may have gone a bit overboard (overkill for sure ).

    I have two HeatKiller VRM waterblocks 80mm and 60mm, which have changeable bottom plates for re-use.
    (Still have to drill the holes and mount, test, etc,...)

    An EK Supremacy EVO, initially bought for an intel chip, but with multiple mounting/backplate purchases later (story in itself), it fits.

    Same SR-1 Radiator, lower noise Noctua fans. 4 in push-pull in the front of the case, all the drive bays have been removed.
    Just the two NVMe drives, no Sata.

    One Noctua on the rear.

    Laing DDC pump with integrated Top reservoir, hidden in the dual 5 1/4 inch bays of the case.
    Going to be a sod to fill, but will be nice and out of sight

    Have bought thermal pads for the VRMs, high quality stuff, that seems to have about the same thermal transfer capacity as Thermal Grizzly paste by Der8auer.

    Loop will be Pump-VRM1-VRM2-CPU-GPU-Rad-Pump.

    Just waiting on a couple of Water loop connectors i'm missing to finish the lot.

    Thankfully, my i5-3570k graphs are still available in my other thread, so i'll be able to actually do some sort of comparisons, with the exact same gpu. (But everything else different).

    CPU voltage and stuff is on Auto for now.

    Just thought I could get the memory dialled in before the water sports () and seeing what the CPU can do, with pbo and Auto overclock, and leaving it as is to do it by itself, with great cooling/airflow.

    The fans will be a big change, from the Corsair SP120's, to the Noctua NF-A12x25's.
    Much, much quieter, at comparable airflow, but double cost.

    Should have the final cooling bits by Monday.

    Parts List :

    80mm HeatKiller VRM Waterblock
    http://shop.watercool.de/epages/Wate...Products/12003

    60mm HeatKiller VRM Waterblock
    http://shop.watercool.de/epages/Wate...Products/12002

    Both have replaceable base-plates for mounting on other motherboards, since you have to create your own custom mounting holes.
    Means if you keep the block, you can just change the base-plate.

    80mm Spare Baseplate
    http://shop.watercool.de/epages/Wate...Products/79301
    60mm Spare Baseplate
    http://shop.watercool.de/epages/Wate...Products/79300

    CPU EK Supremacy EVO Nickel/Plexi Waterblock :
    https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-supremacy-evo-nickel
    With adapter backplate and frontplate for AM4...(two separate deliverys...)

    Asus TUF B450M-PRO Gaming mATX AM4 Motherboard :
    https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/TUF-B450M-PRO-GAMING/

    GSkill RipJaws 2x 8GB DDR4 3200 C14 Kit (Samsung B-Die)
    http://www.gskill.com/product/165/18...5V16GB-(2x8GB)

    Vega64 (From previous build) with EK Waterblock.
    https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-fc-radeon-vega-nickel

    Numerous Alphacool Fittings, numerous
    - Will eventually list them all..

    SeaSonic 850W X-Series PSU (From previous build) ;
    https://seasonic.com/x-series

    AMD 3800X CPU :
    https://www.amd.com/en/products/cpu/amd-ryzen-7-3800x

    Two EK Nickel plated Heatsinks for the two NVMe Drives :
    https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-m-2-nvme-heatsink-nickel

    Boot Samsung 970 EVO Plus 512GB NVMe drive (PCIe3 x4 @x4) :
    https://www.samsung.com/semiconducto...er/970evoplus/

    Games (Steam + GoG) Crucial P1 1TB NVMe drive (PCIe3 x4 @x2)
    https://www.crucial.com/usa/en/storage-ssd-p1

    Ducky One 2 TKL Backlit Keyboard :
    https://www.duckychannel.com.tw/en/D...2-Blue-LED-TKL

    Acer Nitro VG270UP 27" 144Hz IPS non-HDR FreeSync Monitor :
    https://www.acer.com/ac/en/GB/conten...l/UM.HV0EE.P01

    A pretty standard Swingarm for the Monitor (More Keyboard / Mouse freedom) :
    https://www.ldlc.com/fiche/PB00153630.html


    Fun to come
    Last edited by Evildead666; 15th September 2019 at 13:55.
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    Will be swapping out the Black Ice SR-1 for a Black Ice Nemesis 240GTR.
    http://hardwarelabs.com/nemesis/gtr/gtr-240/

    edit : I think the SR-1 is going to end up as a basis for my 200W TEC home made AC along with the TRUE 120 i have somewhere in a box.
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    So, a little update.

    In the beginning, there wuz aircooling.



    Then the VRM coolers came.



    Then the CPU cooler and attachments came. Still missing a couple to finish it.
    PC-1 Fractal Design Arc Mini R2, 3800X, Asus B450M-PRO mATX, 2x8GB B-die@3800C16, AMD Vega64, Seasonic 850W Gold, Black Ice Nemesis/Laing DDC/EKWB 240 Loop (VRM>CPU>GPU), Noctua Fans.
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    I was going to use tubing between the different blocks, and they ended up being too close to each other, so I had to order lots of different attachments.
    Lots of them.
    This way I can get a solid link between the vrm and cpu blocks, and a short tube to the gpu.
    Lots of attachments. Quite a few i tried, and ended up being just too short or too long, or not rotating...
    The light is appearing at the end of the tunnel, and i hope to be running by this weekend.
    I hope.

    edit : A lot of them

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    Looks cool.

    Just wondering, as this is, amongst others I am sure, about 4K encoding, and you put a lot of effort into cooling and a new MB, have you considered going Threadripper? Why not or, if you did, what made you choose for a 3800X?
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    Nice build! Congrats. Good that we still have some hard core PC builders on board.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Umfriend View Post
    Looks cool.

    Just wondering, as this is, amongst others I am sure, about 4K encoding, and you put a lot of effort into cooling and a new MB, have you considered going Threadripper? Why not or, if you did, what made you choose for a 3800X?
    Its for gaming first.
    Will spend most of its time encoding one video in 4K until I get it right.

    Took three days before, should be done in less than one day now.
    3800X because the 65W of the 3700 would have left me wondering, what if?...and I went all out on cooling to bench.
    Stock, PBO, lots to play with before I break it.

    The Radiator is a good 4x the cooling of the SR-1.

    I'll add a side-by-side pic. They are very different.
    SR-1 is for Low speed fans (even tho I had full RPM fans on it) and the Nemesis is for High speed fans (Which will still be at full speed, just Noctua's instead of Corsair SP120's).

    edit (also clean vs new, i used a whole can of comp air on the dirty one, and the vacuum cleaner.) :


    SR-1 TOP and Nemesis GTR BOTTOM, both 50mm thick

    SR-1 alone held a Vega64 at 10-15°C Delta so, the new one should do good

    edit2 : The holes look bigger, its the z height difference. There are Fans under the Nemesis GTR.
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    Nas : i3/itx/2x4GB/8x4TB BTRFS/Raid6 (7 + Hotspare) Xpenology
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    Quote Originally Posted by UtwigMU View Post
    Nice build! Congrats. Good that we still have some hard core PC builders on board.
    I've progessively worked up to this.
    The VRM cooling is a first, and I hope to not burn the whole lot, the CPU VRM block is very very close to the choke solder points.
    I'm going to find a screen protector for a phone, and stick a bit on the side, to act as insulator (as well as the thermal pad going 90° upwards in between the chokes and the block.).
    Nickel coated block and copper base is a bit of a lightning rod.

    edit : First wc was the amazing Barton core, to 2.6GHz.
    The the 6800GT to no more than the aircooler.
    Then the P4D to 5GHz (5~10mins?)
    Then the i5-3570K i had up until now.
    I wc the 290 and now a Vega64.

    I like Having fun

    I enjoy the Benchmarking more than the build itself, a bit more.
    Finding the right connectors has become a bit of a quest.
    I'll be glad and happy when I get it back up and running.
    Last edited by Evildead666; 16th September 2019 at 11:21.
    PC-1 Fractal Design Arc Mini R2, 3800X, Asus B450M-PRO mATX, 2x8GB B-die@3800C16, AMD Vega64, Seasonic 850W Gold, Black Ice Nemesis/Laing DDC/EKWB 240 Loop (VRM>CPU>GPU), Noctua Fans.
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