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    Musk & Shotwell have been talking Earth Point to Point (P2P) and other tidbits

    Starship's fins & legs have been changed, but these mods shouldn't impact the schedule.

    P2P to 10,000km (6,200m) could be done without a Super Heavy booster. Single stage, Mach 20. Instead of 3 sea level + 3 vacuum engines it would be 9-10 sea levels.

    First full stack Starship+SH launch in 18 months, roughly Q3-Q4 2020. The first Mars cargo logistics loads during the 2024 Earth-Mars synod.

    At the Boca Chica build site large verticle beams are being installed around what's assumed to be Starship Mk1's propulsion module. May be a verticle assembly structure w/crane. The below video shows 3 beams, but this morning there were 7 with more going in.

    Across the yard is 1/4 of what looks like the propulsion module's common bulkhead, which separates the methane (lower) and liquid oxygen (upper) propellant tanks. It should go atop what's already been built, then they'd build the longer liquid oxygen tank above it.

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    Chris B - NSF @NASASpaceflight
    Raptor SN4 has arrived in Boca Chica from McGregor and is currently undergoing fit checks/installation tasks with Starhopper.

    Mary (@Bocachicagal) has ������'s here:https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/in...657#msg1952657
    3:00 PM - Jun 1, 2019

    Images also here,

    https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight/...97457832386563
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    Local news report from the Cocoa, Florida build site. Reports are they'll truck it horizontally to a barge dock, then float it to Cape Canaveral for test flights.

    James Sparvero ✓ @news6james
    Under construction in a Cocoa industrial area, the #SpaceX #Starship is starting to take shape. @elonmusk says the largest spaceship ever will be big enough to fly 100 colonists to Mars @news6wkmg @SpaceX

    https://twitter.com/news6james/statu...62352149422080

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    Chris Bergin @NASASpaceFlight
    Aerospace Engineering Degree Course - Unit 5: Grinding and Polishing Starships. 😅

    📸@BocaChicaGal

    https://t.co/r8kfKik3vQ
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    https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight/...42373104979968

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    Elevated shots of Starship Mk-2 at Cocoa Florida June 22. Coming along nicely. More at the tweet.

    The ogive portion is the cargo/passenger module, and the shorter cylinder is the lowermost portion of the propulsion module - which will make up most of the vehicle.

    Starship height: 55+ meters, about 180 feet.

    Launch mass: over 1,300 metric tons.

    The Super Heavy booster will be 63+ meters.

    Cocoa June 22 2.jpg

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    https://twitter.com/ShortingIsFun/st...74556453675008
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    Jonathan Hofeller, SpaceX VP of Commercial Sales.

    Starship Chomper: 100+ tonnes to LEO, 20 tonnes to GEO

    https://spacenews.com/spacex-targets...arship-launch/

    SpaceX targets 2021 commercial Starship launch

    JAKARTA, Indonesia The first commercial mission for SpaceX's Starship and Super Heavy launch system will likely take place in 2021, a company executive said June 26.

    Jonathan Hofeller, SpaceXs vice president of commercial sales, said the company is in talks with prospective customers for the first commercial launch of that system roughly two years from now.

    "We are in discussions with three different customers as we speak right now to be that first mission," Hofeller said at the APSAT conference here. "Those are all telecom companies."
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    "We have future hops coming up later this year, he said. The goal is to get orbital as quickly as possible, potentially even this year, with the full stack operational by the end of next year and then customers in early 2021."
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    "You could potentially recapture a satellite and bring it down if you wanted to," Hofeller said. "It's very similar to the [space] shuttle bay in that regard. So we have this tool, and we are challenging the industry: what would you do with it?"
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    From April

    https://twitter.com/NASAGoddard/stat...10431969239040

    NASA Goddard ✓ @NASAGoddard
    We asked and @SpaceX checked. The #LUVOIR space telescope concept can indeed fly on Starship! (graphic used by permission) https://t.co/ZVz9CbAp3F

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    This

    https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2019...nches-pad-39a/

    Goes with

    Thomas Burghardt @TGMetsFan98
    SpaceX has a new job posting for "Launch Engineer, Starship Operations" in Cape Canaveral:

    "The Cape Starship Operations Engineer...for Starship and Super Heavy vehicle development and initial launch capability from Launch Pad 39A."

    https://boards.greenhouse.io/spacex/...medium=ios_app
    5:05 PM - Jul 4, 2019

    RESPONSIBILITIES:

    * Assist in the design and development of mechanical and fluid launch systems for the Starship and Super Heavy vehicle at our Cape Canaveral launch site

    * Develop novel ways site wide to streamline processes and increase the reliability of Starship operations

    * Projects will range from site development for fabrication, automated welding systems, launch pad fluid systems, to small custom valves for fluid systems, test fixtures, and automated mechanisms

    * Use your well-rounded technical knowledge to display proficiency in basic structural sizing, mechanisms, and design while making development decisions based on cost and schedule considerations

    * Directly support the fabrication of tooling and ground support equipment at the launch site facilities

    * Collaborate with both design and fabrication engineering

    * Ensure that all parts are received and inspected at the correct time to facilitate the build schedule

    * Participate in tool design and development

    * Develop production, activation, and operations procedures/processes

    * Resolve manufacturing discrepancies and interface with the cross functional teams
    https://twitter.com/TGMetsFan98/stat...87854334926863
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    Only a few segments left....

    Mary @BocaChicaGal
    Another busy morning here at Boca Chica. Removal of the protective film has started. The polishing on Starship orbital prototype continues. The four panels that make a complete ring are being lowered into the container area. 🤠🚀😎@NASASpaceflighthttps://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/in...409#msg1963409
    1:27 PM - Jul 6, 2019

    https://twitter.com/BocaChicaGal/sta...57633949405186

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    Beach closure at Boca Chica for a Starship Hopper hop attempt on July 17 (1400-2000 Central), with backups of the 18th (1400-2000 Central) and the 19th (0600-1200 Central).

    https://twitter.com/rgv_com/status/1148801257005572096
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    Raptor SN6 has arrived for next week's Starship Hopper test

    Date: July 17
    Backup dates: July 18 & 19

    Chris B - NSF @NASASpaceflight
    SN6 Raptor is being installed on to Starhopper at Boca Chica.

    Mary (@BocaChicaGal) with some cool pics https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/in...715#msg1964715
    12:29 PM - Jul 11, 2019

    IMG_20190711_133454.jpg

    https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight/...55025283653633
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    Hop test of Boca Chica's StarHopper Tuesday, with backup dates the following two days.

    At Cocoa, Florida Starship Mk-2 build, I spy an inverted dome between the cargo and propulsion modules. Lower dome, waiting for the thrust structure?

    Its scale is...wow. Even NASA guys who've driven by are commenting about it, and how huge the full Starship + Super Heavy stack will be.

    Omar Izquierdo ✈ @izqomar
    And since I'm probably the only person on earth that hasn't posted pics of the east coast #SpaceX Starship, here's my entry

    IMG_20190714_131022.jpg

    https://twitter.com/izqomar/status/1150417690357579776
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    We have a bulkhead....and stacking can't be too far off

    Chris B - NSF @NASASpaceflight
    SpaceX's Container in Boca Chica made a new offering to the Prototype Starship this evening, the bulkhead!

    In view: Aft section build up. Bulkhead. Fairing. To be welded together behind the windbreaker (when covered).

    📸Mary (@BocaChicaGal) Photos here:https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/in...506#msg1967506

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    https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight/...52635320627206
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    WOOT!!

    Anner J. Bonilla @annerajb
    Replying to @elonmusk
    when florida starship testing?
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    Elon Musk ✔ @elonmusk
    Texas and Florida Starship prototypes (not Hopper) fly in 2 to 3 months
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    Anner J. Bonilla @annerajb
    Replying to @elonmusk
    so vehicle will achieve orbit at some point during test regimen?
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    Elon Musk ✔ @elonmusk
    2 to 3 months after that
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    Pauline @justpaulinelol
    Replying to @elonmusk @annerajb
    Will there be a livestream of the test?
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    Elon Musk ✔ @elonmusk
    I suspect many besides SpaceX will livestream these flights. Won't be subtle.
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    Dark Energy @Alejandro_DebH
    Replying to @elonmusk @annerajb
    How are you going to have 39A ready in time for that??? O.o
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    Elon Musk ✔ @elonmusk
    Starship launch structure is being built off-site in steel subsections
    8:29 PM - Jul 19, 2019
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    Falcon 9 Block 5 @Falcon9Block5
    Replying to @elonmusk and 2 others
    What will become of the old 39A tower?
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    Elon Musk ✔ @elonmusk
    Wont change. Starship launch structure will be attached to the other side from tower.

    https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1152367082018754561
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    This sounds so Thunderbirds....

    Elon Musk ✔ @elonmusk
    Replying to @kimitalvitie @SpaceX
    Outer engines stick out slightly from 9m diameter, don’t gimbal & are mechanically joined at nozzle
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    For 37 engine config, 6 are mounted outboard under landing leg fairings
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    Martin @ MemesOfMars @MemesOfMars
    Replying to @elonmusk and 2 others
    how many do gimbal then?
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    Elon Musk ✔ @elonmusk
    Center 7 engines gimbal to 15 degrees
    5:49 PM - Jul 22, 2019

    https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1153419411715346432
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    20+ meter hop at about 01:18

    Can't see much because of the enormous plume from just one Raptor engine.

    A 200m hop in about 1-2 weeks.



    Now, imagine this times 37 on a fully populated Super Heavy booster, pushing from 66.72 to 84.52 million Newtons of thrust.

    Super Heavy will be able fly with fewer engines for lighter payloads, but full up its going to be a friggin' monster.

    NASA's CFO said if SpaceX can demonstrate a Starship lunar landing NASA will leverage it.
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