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    Yeah, it seems like a good deal. What's the TDP of those Xeons (of which you have two)? :d.

    J1NG seems to churn out a lot too, might threaten your 3rd place by RAC soon. RAC trails due to some geometric averaging over time, may take about 10 days or so to get stable (assuming your daily credits are stable).

    @Delany, could you have a look at the event log and at the tasks tab? Is it actually doing anything? You should have had some WUs finished by now.

    We're almost #400 and it';; take more than a year before someone passes us. Not satisfactory but way better then how it was five days ago
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    Umf,

    The client on my server isn't going to churn out much as it's a P4 3.06Ghz machine with 2Gb or RAM and is running 2003SBS. it's the machine between my router and the rest of my network. It looks like it may complete 1 WU per day if I'm lucky but even that may not happen. I just realised that it was set to use at most 30% of the CPU time, I've change it to 50% to see if it makes much of a difference.

    My PC has actually been turned off for a period of time (real life issued unfortunately) but is back on now. It's working on 8 tasks at once but I've limited it to 50% of the CPU time to bring down the heat until I make some changes to the cooling of the PC. Would I be better to let it have 100% of the CPU time but limit it to using 50% of the Processors? I'm assuming it sees my quad core HT capable CPU as 8 processors...
    It's currently between 32-35% through the 8 tasks (due to the downtime) so we'll see how it goes from here, I guess it would also help if I stopped playing games on it when I was home so it didn't go over 25% processor usage for non-rosetta stuff.
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    Personally, wherever I want to limit heat/consumption I always limit the %-age of processors to use, never by CPU-time but don't ask me why.

    A P4 3.06 should be able to churn more than 1 WU/day I think. On my server (a Celeron G530, doing about 20 WUs a day) I don't limit the usage at all. R@H is a low priority process so it should give way to anything else that requires attention. The only annoying thing I experience is at boot as it loads close to 500Mb per WU.

    In your case, as I do not know how it deals with HT exactly I would in fact limit to 40% of processors. That way you use at most 3 cores but I assume they'll be efficient ones (again, I am ignorant on the efficiency of HT nowadays). With the P4, I would definately cap at 50% of processors but not limit other than that.

    Anyway, any WU helps the team so many thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZokesPro View Post
    On another note, my dual Xeon RAC beat Tx's AMD 8 core! I underestimated the po wer of Xeons. And given enough time I will reach third in no time. If you sort by RAC, I'm already third!

    Food for thought, I spent a fraction of what most paid for just their CPU!
    Do consider the following:
    I'm not running 24/7 and an AMD FX 8120 is more or less equivalent to an Intel I5 2500k. Yes, each AMD core is less than an Intel core at the same clock rate.
    So each core on your Xeon CPUs is much more than a core on an AMD machine.

    Also, my graphic card is out of the game, but testing using other computation benchmarks, it's a real killer (AMD Radeon 6870).
    If they'll start running OpenCL, your Xeons will find themselves underpowered
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    As it is now, it'll take over two years before someone passes us! As this is projected based on RAC and ours is trailing the increased efforts by Zokes, TX and Delany I am confident that it will take even longer. Moreover, 2 of the 3 threatening teams are single-member teams which have a significant likelihood to drop out. We're doing very well.
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    Delany, something must be wrong. Is the server running headless or is at least no one logged on to the desktop normally? If so, have you installed BOINC as a service (protected mode or something it is called)? It does not even connect to R@H.
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    Hi Umf, The server is running headless. I administer it via RDP from my Windows 7 Machine. BOINC was installed as a service. The installation was done from the Administrator account via the RDP connection.
    Here is an image to show that as far as I can see, it's there installed and running as should be.
    BOINC Service.jpg

    The messages from within the BOINC Manager are as follows:
    31/03/2013 10:57:27 AM||Starting BOINC client version 5.10.45 for windows_intelx86
    31/03/2013 10:57:27 AM||log flags: task, file_xfer, sched_ops
    31/03/2013 10:57:27 AM||Libraries: libcurl/7.18.0 OpenSSL/0.9.8e zlib/1.2.3
    31/03/2013 10:57:27 AM||Executing as a daemon
    31/03/2013 10:57:27 AM||Data directory: C:\Program Files\BOINC
    31/03/2013 10:57:27 AM||BOINC is running as a service and as a non-system user.
    31/03/2013 10:57:27 AM||No application graphics will be available.
    31/03/2013 10:57:27 AM||Processor: 1 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.06GHz [x86 Family 15 Model 2 Stepping 7]
    31/03/2013 10:57:27 AM||Processor features: fpu tsc sse sse2 mmx
    31/03/2013 10:57:27 AM||OS: Microsoft Windows Server 2003: Standard Server Edition, Service Pack 2, (05.02.3790.00)
    31/03/2013 10:57:27 AM||Memory: 2.00 GB physical, 3.85 GB virtual
    31/03/2013 10:57:27 AM||Disk: 465.75 GB total, 441.57 GB free
    31/03/2013 10:57:27 AM||Local time is UTC +11 hours
    31/03/2013 10:57:27 AM||No general preferences found - using BOINC defaults
    31/03/2013 10:57:27 AM||Preferences limit memory usage when active to 1023.73MB
    31/03/2013 10:57:27 AM||Preferences limit memory usage when idle to 1842.71MB
    31/03/2013 10:57:27 AM||Preferences limit disk usage to 9.31GB
    31/03/2013 10:57:27 AM||This computer is not attached to any projects
    31/03/2013 10:57:27 AM||Visit http://boinc.berkeley.edu for instructions
    31/03/2013 10:57:47 AM||Fetching configuration file from http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/ge...ect_config.php
    31/03/2013 10:58:02 AM||Running CPU benchmarks
    31/03/2013 10:58:02 AM||Suspending computation - running CPU benchmarks
    31/03/2013 10:58:07 AM|rosetta@home|Master file download succeeded
    31/03/2013 10:58:12 AM|rosetta@home|Sending scheduler request: Project initialization. Requesting 1 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
    31/03/2013 10:58:15 AM||A new version of BOINC (7.0.28) is available for your computer
    31/03/2013 10:58:15 AM||Visit http://boinc.berkeley.edu/download.php to get it.
    31/03/2013 10:58:17 AM|rosetta@home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 1 new tasks
    31/03/2013 10:58:19 AM|rosetta@home|Started download of minirosetta_3.45_windows_intelx86.exe
    31/03/2013 10:58:19 AM|rosetta@home|Started download of minirosetta_graphics_3.43_windows_intelx86.exe
    31/03/2013 10:58:33 AM||Benchmark results:
    31/03/2013 10:58:33 AM|| Number of CPUs: 1
    31/03/2013 10:58:33 AM|| 1643 floating point MIPS (Whetstone) per CPU
    31/03/2013 10:58:33 AM|| 3134 integer MIPS (Dhrystone) per CPU
    31/03/2013 10:58:34 AM||Resuming computation
    31/03/2013 10:59:12 AM||No general preferences found - using BOINC defaults
    31/03/2013 10:59:12 AM||Reading preferences override file
    31/03/2013 10:59:12 AM||Preferences limit memory usage when active to 1023.73MB
    31/03/2013 10:59:12 AM||Preferences limit memory usage when idle to 1842.71MB
    31/03/2013 10:59:12 AM||Preferences limit disk usage to 9.31GB
    31/03/2013 11:01:09 AM|rosetta@home|Finished download of minirosetta_graphics_3.43_windows_intelx86.exe
    31/03/2013 11:01:12 AM|rosetta@home|Started download of Helvetica.txf
    31/03/2013 11:01:21 AM|rosetta@home|Finished download of Helvetica.txf
    31/03/2013 11:01:21 AM|rosetta@home|Started download of minirosetta_database_rev52077.zip
    31/03/2013 11:02:21 AM|rosetta@home|Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. Requesting 5891 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
    31/03/2013 11:02:25 AM|rosetta@home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 1 new tasks
    31/03/2013 11:03:38 AM|rosetta@home|Finished download of minirosetta_3.45_windows_intelx86.exe
    31/03/2013 11:03:38 AM|rosetta@home|Started download of rb_03_30_37422_71107_h001__vfr_h001_.psipred_ss2
    31/03/2013 11:03:52 AM|rosetta@home|Finished download of rb_03_30_37422_71107_h001__vfr_h001_.psipred_ss2
    31/03/2013 11:03:52 AM|rosetta@home|Started download of rb_03_30_37422_71107_h001__vfr_h001_.fasta
    31/03/2013 11:03:53 AM|rosetta@home|Finished download of rb_03_30_37422_71107_h001__vfr_h001_.fasta
    31/03/2013 11:03:53 AM|rosetta@home|Started download of rb_03_30_37422_71107_h001__vfr_h001_.nobuformat.ps ipred_ss2
    31/03/2013 11:03:54 AM|rosetta@home|Finished download of rb_03_30_37422_71107_h001__vfr_h001_.nobuformat.ps ipred_ss2
    31/03/2013 11:03:54 AM|rosetta@home|Started download of rb_03_30_37422_71107_h001__vfr_aah001_03_05.200_v1 _3.gz
    31/03/2013 11:04:13 AM|rosetta@home|Finished download of rb_03_30_37422_71107_h001__vfr_aah001_03_05.200_v1 _3.gz
    31/03/2013 11:04:14 AM|rosetta@home|Started download of rb_03_30_37422_71107_h001__vfr_aah001_11_05.200_v1 _3.gz
    31/03/2013 11:05:23 AM|rosetta@home|Finished download of rb_03_30_37422_71107_h001__vfr_aah001_11_05.200_v1 _3.gz
    31/03/2013 11:05:23 AM|rosetta@home|Started download of flags_rb_03_30_37422_71105__t000__0_C1_robetta
    31/03/2013 11:05:24 AM|rosetta@home|Finished download of flags_rb_03_30_37422_71105__t000__0_C1_robetta
    31/03/2013 11:05:24 AM|rosetta@home|Started download of input_rb_03_30_37422_71105__t000__0_C1_robetta.zip
    31/03/2013 11:08:05 AM|rosetta@home|Finished download of input_rb_03_30_37422_71105__t000__0_C1_robetta.zip
    31/03/2013 11:12:12 AM|rosetta@home|Finished download of minirosetta_database_rev52077.zip
    31/03/2013 11:12:15 AM|rosetta@home|Starting rb_03_30_37422_71107_h001__vfr_IGNORE_THE_REST_11_ 03_77547_9_0
    31/03/2013 11:12:23 AM|rosetta@home|Starting task rb_03_30_37422_71107_h001__vfr_IGNORE_THE_REST_11_ 03_77547_9_0 using minirosetta version 345
    31/03/2013 11:44:15 AM||No general preferences found - using BOINC defaults
    31/03/2013 11:44:15 AM||Reading preferences override file
    31/03/2013 11:44:15 AM||Preferences limit memory usage when active to 1023.73MB
    31/03/2013 11:44:15 AM||Preferences limit memory usage when idle to 1842.71MB
    31/03/2013 11:44:15 AM||Preferences limit disk usage to 9.31GB
    2/04/2013 7:57:20 PM||No general preferences found - using BOINC defaults
    2/04/2013 7:57:20 PM||Reading preferences override file
    2/04/2013 7:57:20 PM||Preferences limit memory usage when active to 1023.73MB
    2/04/2013 7:57:20 PM||Preferences limit memory usage when idle to 1842.71MB
    2/04/2013 7:57:20 PM||Preferences limit disk usage to 9.31GB
    2/04/2013 7:59:20 PM||No general preferences found - using BOINC defaults
    2/04/2013 7:59:20 PM||Reading preferences override file
    2/04/2013 7:59:20 PM||Preferences limit memory usage when active to 1023.73MB
    2/04/2013 7:59:20 PM||Preferences limit memory usage when idle to 1842.71MB
    2/04/2013 7:59:20 PM||Preferences limit disk usage to 9.31GB
    2/04/2013 7:59:30 PM||No general preferences found - using BOINC defaults
    2/04/2013 7:59:30 PM||Reading preferences override file
    2/04/2013 7:59:30 PM||Preferences limit memory usage when active to 1023.73MB
    2/04/2013 7:59:30 PM||Preferences limit memory usage when idle to 1842.71MB
    2/04/2013 7:59:30 PM||Preferences limit disk usage to 9.31GB
    2/04/2013 7:59:38 PM||No general preferences found - using BOINC defaults
    2/04/2013 7:59:38 PM||Reading preferences override file
    2/04/2013 7:59:38 PM||Preferences limit memory usage when active to 1023.73MB
    2/04/2013 7:59:38 PM||Preferences limit memory usage when idle to 1842.71MB
    2/04/2013 7:59:38 PM||Preferences limit disk usage to 9.31GB
    2/04/2013 8:56:01 PM||No general preferences found - using BOINC defaults
    2/04/2013 8:56:01 PM||Reading preferences override file
    2/04/2013 8:56:01 PM||Preferences limit memory usage when active to 1023.73MB
    2/04/2013 8:56:01 PM||Preferences limit memory usage when idle to 1842.71MB
    2/04/2013 8:56:01 PM||Preferences limit disk usage to 9.31GB
    2/04/2013 9:02:51 PM||No general preferences found - using BOINC defaults
    2/04/2013 9:02:51 PM||Reading preferences override file
    2/04/2013 9:02:51 PM||Preferences limit memory usage when active to 1023.73MB
    2/04/2013 9:02:51 PM||Preferences limit memory usage when idle to 1842.71MB
    2/04/2013 9:02:51 PM||Preferences limit disk usage to 9.31GB
    2/04/2013 9:03:40 PM||No general preferences found - using BOINC defaults
    2/04/2013 9:03:40 PM||Reading preferences override file
    2/04/2013 9:03:40 PM||Preferences limit memory usage when active to 1023.73MB
    2/04/2013 9:03:40 PM||Preferences limit memory usage when idle to 1842.71MB
    2/04/2013 9:03:40 PM||Preferences limit disk usage to 9.31GB
    2/04/2013 9:04:32 PM||No general preferences found - using BOINC defaults
    2/04/2013 9:04:32 PM||Reading preferences override file
    2/04/2013 9:04:32 PM||Preferences limit memory usage when active to 1023.73MB
    2/04/2013 9:04:32 PM||Preferences limit memory usage when idle to 1842.71MB
    2/04/2013 9:04:32 PM||Preferences limit disk usage to 9.31GB
    3/04/2013 6:27:44 AM|rosetta@home|Computation for task rb_03_30_37422_71107_h001__vfr_IGNORE_THE_REST_11_ 03_77547_9_0 finished
    3/04/2013 6:27:44 AM|rosetta@home|Starting rb_03_30_37422_71105__t000__0_C1_SAVE_ALL_OUT_IGNO RE_THE_REST_77549_136_0
    3/04/2013 6:27:59 AM|rosetta@home|Starting task rb_03_30_37422_71105__t000__0_C1_SAVE_ALL_OUT_IGNO RE_THE_REST_77549_136_0 using minirosetta version 345
    3/04/2013 6:28:00 AM|rosetta@home|Started upload of rb_03_30_37422_71107_h001__vfr_IGNORE_THE_REST_11_ 03_77547_9_0_0
    3/04/2013 6:28:07 AM|rosetta@home|Finished upload of rb_03_30_37422_71107_h001__vfr_IGNORE_THE_REST_11_ 03_77547_9_0_0

    So, all in all, I'm not sure what the issue is, it's definitely running, just VERY slowly.

    I get why my desktop PC hasn't finished anything yet, it's been turned off for the vast majority of each day in the last couple of days and has only run for a couple of hours each night.
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    Where the heck did you manage to get a BOINC version that old?? v5.10.45?

    I am a bit worried about "31/03/2013 10:57:27 AM||This computer is not attached to any projects" which I can't understand as you've obviously told BOINC to get to R@H. Coul you open BOINC manager, select the project and press the update button? It'd be interesting to see what the log says then.
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    The event "31/03/2013 10:57:27 AM||This computer is not attached to any projects" is simply because the BOINC Manager and Service were installed and hadn't been connected to R@H as yet
    The line 20 seconds or so after "31/03/2013 10:57:47 AM||Fetching configuration file from http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/ge...ect_config.php" is where it was connected to R@H

    The reason the server is using that version is due to the fact that is it a Domain Controller and the newest version will not install on a Domain Controller. A bit of googling found that the version I've installed does install and work so I went with that. My desktop PC is running the latest version.

    I did what you asked, the new lines in the log are:
    3/04/2013 9:11:52 PM|rosetta@home|Sending scheduler request: Requested by user. Requesting 0 seconds of work, reporting 1 completed tasks
    3/04/2013 9:11:57 PM|rosetta@home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks
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    Ah yes, that'll be it. Thanks to the update, your first 167 credits are in!

    Thx for the effort. Others would simply have stopped when they found out the domain controller issue, whatever that is.
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    Not a problem at all, just glad to be "doing my part"...

    The short version of the Domain Controller issue is around the fact that with the newer versions of BOINC the developers used the Local Account API's instead of the Global Account API's and since the Domain Controller uses Active Directory, the local accounts don't work. The only real issue with using the old version that does actually install is that it doesn't support multiprocessor (or HyperThreading) or GPU calculation thus the slower output.
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    What a bunch of morons, anyone knows to use the GA API's! *walks away whistling*

    Edit: And Zokes is #2 by RAC.

    Nicram is hard to keep up with and he'll pass me soon enough.
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    @Delany: I don't understand why but you seem to be getting _large_ WUs, which is the reason why you process few WUs. On the other hand, you get about 12x the credits/WU so in the long run you should be fine.
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    Well, so much for me running BOINC on 2 PCs. My server crashed tonight and now it bluescreens on startup due to a fault in non paged area stop message. The particular one I'm getting is due to a new application or service being installed that isn't playing nice. BOINC is the only thing added recently. Unfortunately, I can't even fix the problem at the moment as I don't have a ps2 keyboard and the motherboard doesn't support the "fancy" USB ones I have so the server will have to stay off until tomorrow night as I'll have to buy a ps2 one tomorrow during my lunch break. The most annoying part of it is that it also takes out my internet for the other PCs as they connect through it. I'm typing this on my iPad. I'll still run it on my desktop PC, but the server will be off limits if/when I get it fixed...
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    Understandable. Weird that it would crash now, not right away. Bummer
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