Kyro / G400 image quality

[CHHAS]

I just got my G400 back for a friend, and hooked it up to my new Samsung Syncmaster 900SL. I can now switch between my G400 and my Kyro to compare the image quality.
Sadly it's not much of a contest. The G400 is so much better it almost hurts. I can run 1600x1200 with good quality on the G400, where the Kyro looks like I sweared grease on the screen. Even in 1024x768 the difference is visible, but not as much.

Why can't we have the best of everything in one card ? (Not to say that the Kyro is the best 3D card, but it's clearly faster than the G400)

C'mon Matrox, a lot of people are waiting for whatever you're developing now

[Tom]

CHHAS,

I know what you're saying...
I traded my G400MAX for my friend's
Asus V6800 for a weekend. The GeForce was quite a bit faster...my friend also mentioned that when he got back his GeForce,
the 2D looked blurry for some reason!

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MatroxG400MAX..and some other stuff

[Nuno]

Hey CHHAS, what brand is your Kyro?

[CHHAS]

It's a Powercolor, but I'm using a new BIOS and the Inno3D drivers, as these are vastly superior in image quality to the original ones.

[Novdid]

CHHAS

How much of a difference is there at 1280x960. Is it bearable?

I´ve already ordered a Kyro II, and the 2D should be the same as Kyro I.

[This message has been edited by Novdid (edited 14 April 2001).]

[CHHAS]

At 1024x768 the difference in noticeble, but the Kyro is not too bad, at 1600x1200 (what I'm working on now, the Kyro is out again) the difference is night and day.
I used 1152x864 on the Kyro, it wasn't as good as 1024x768 (or 1600x1200 on the G400), but it was ok, haven't worked much at 1280x960, but if you use a Matrox card at that resolution now, you'll notice the difference.

Of course the Hercules Kyro 2 could have much better 2D quality than my Kyro although I doubt it a bit.

I'm seriously considering selling my Kyro (if I can get anything for it).

Another curiosity, I just did some 3Dmark 2001 benches on both cards:

System: Duron @866(133), 512 mb ram (cas3 4w interleave), Win 98SE, DX8

Kyro:

Game 1 low - 26,1
Game 1 high - 3,9
Game 2 low - 29,3
Game 2 high - 12,2
Game 3 low - 44,8
Game 3 high - 12,3

G400 @ 160/180

Game 1 low - 21,7
Game 1 high - 7,8
Game 2 low - 18,9
Game 2 high - 8,1
Game 3 low - 27,1
Game 3 high - 15,0

[Novdid]

Thanks for the info.