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  • WooWhoo!! 90 Gig striped array! Settings sugestions?

    Ok, so I ordered my BE6-2 V2 and low and behold the UDMA/100 controler is a raid controler.
    Well, I had just bought an IBM 45 Gig Drive, So I ordered another one.
    (If Matrox doesn't com out with the G800 soon there's no telling what extra stuff I'll wind up with )

    I noticed there is a setting for Block Size in the RAID setup. It defaults to 64. What is it? Should I change it?

    I'm formatting now, so if I need to change something it would be best if I did it befor I put on the Ghost image.

    At 90 Gigs I've got plenty of time to kill while it formats
    chuck

    Updated sig in progress........
    Chuck
    秋音的爸爸

  • #2
    Stripe size should be set according to your application. If you want to use the array to store streaming content, you're best off by setting it to a large block size. If you're loading your OS and apps off of it, you're better off with a small block size. You could try experimenting with a basic setup and running some benchmarks before committing to a configuration. Some controllers support multiple arrays which give you some flexibility on where you place your files yet adding drives to an existing array will yield the optimum throughput.

    P.S. You have to set the stripe size before you format. You'll also need to reestablish the array and reformat if you're later adding to the stripe set. Better be sure of your configuration before you commit yourself.

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    • #3
      Thanks XOR,
      I desided to set it to the FAT32 allocation block size for this size drive -> 32k
      Also, I set the drives up as masters on separate channels. I wonder if that makes any difference?
      I'll do some testing befor I reuse the drive I have my image on.

      Chuck


      [This message has been edited by cjolley (edited 27 October 2000).]
      Chuck
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      • #4
        Little question though, Chuck. What OS are you running? If a Win9x or ME environment, I don't think you can run a striped RAID. As far as I know you need NT4 or Win2k for it.

        Also, a striped FAT32? If you're running Win2k, why not format your RAID NTFS?
        [edit] You HAVE to use NTFS for a striped RAID. See my post below. [/end edit]

        Third, if you want to run stripe-5 (or RAID-5), you need at least 3 drives (and up to 32 drives ) of the same format (NTFS and same size) to get it to work. If you plan on normal stripe, be sure you make backups a lot. For if one of your drives fails, you will loose ALL of your data!!

        Jord.

        [This message has been edited by Jorden (edited 28 October 2000).]
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        • #5
          More info on:

          RAID

          Note RAID is not available on Microsoft Windows® 95/98.
          Understanding and Implementing RAID

          Comparing Different Implementations of RAID Levels

          Jord.
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          • #6
            Jorden, RAID arrays are supported under Win9x/Me with Promise's controller in either a RAID level 1, 5 or both.
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            • #7
              Yeah RAID is not supported NATIVELYon Win9x at the OS level. Win2k and linux do it natively (built in to OS) but it can be set up under 9x
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              • #8
                Jord,

                NT and 2K provide for SOFTWARE Raid. That is, you don't need a separate controller - you can simply use the two IDE controllers already in most machines. The card controllers are HARDWARE Raid and can be used in any machine with its accompanying software.

                RAB
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                • #9
                  Oh no Jorden!!! Nobody told me I couldn't run RAID on Win98. I've been running Win98 on a RAID 0 array for the last year and a half without a problem. Now I have to start over again.

                  As you may have figured out by now, RAID can be implemented at the OS level or in hardware/firmware. The hardware implementation (which Chuck and I have) delivers higher performance then the software version and also has the added advantage of being transparent to the OS. You don't format RAID for a specific FS as the FS and OS et.al. just see the array as a single physical drive. That's why I mentioned that you have to establish the array first before you format the drive (and even before you partition the drive). HW RAID is transparent to SW.
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                  • #10
                    My BE6-II V2 uses the HighPoint controler.
                    Yup, all hardware. Even works with dos & boots off the raid set.

                    I think that the stripe setting is per-drive so I dropped to to 16k.
                    Did I mention that Ghost is wonderful?

                    I suspect the raid is working




                    chuck

                    Still workiing on that sig

                    [This message has been edited by cjolley (edited 28 October 2000).]

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                    • #11
                      Guess I learned something as well
                      Though it could've been said a little less harsh, guys

                      Wonder who knows all and everything from the top of his head and can explain it.

                      Jordâ„¢

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                      • #12
                        Hey Jorden,
                        You're info was helpful and lead me to some good stuff.
                        I didn't say what OS I was using.
                        Thanks,
                        Chuck
                        Chuck
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                        • #13
                          It's best to keep one's mouth shut and let everyone think you're stupid rather than open it and remove all doubt

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                          • #14
                            Sorry Jord if I sounded harsh. You sounded a bit confused and I know how that can be. Going through the MCSE classes packs a lot of information into your head in a very short time and sometimes it can get very confusing. Sometimes they tell you something in class that doesn't quite match what you though you knew. Other times the teacher is wrong or doesn't explain something clearly. It can be terribly confusing at times.

                            Next time I will try to remember to add some smilies because I know how hard you are trying to figure it all out.

                            RAB
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                            • #15
                              I hope I didn't come off as being harsh. Wasn't trying to.
                              [rant] That being said I've just finished reformatting and reinstalling 3 OSes on my 20 GB Maxtor. Was playing around in Linux yesterday afternoon and fuXx0r3d it properly plus made some bad decisions in trying to take the easy way out to get win98 back working after getting win2k back. Lost quite a bit of stuff but no important documents, whew [/rant].
                              I think I'm going to get the Abit KT7 RAID and sell this KT7 to my elder brother. Just $148 at mwave (less than I got the KT7 for)
                              Try not to end a sentence with a preposition somtime
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