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  • Will a coppermine CPU die instantly on voltage over 1,65?

    Im interesterd in getting a newer CPU and i dont know if my MB suports sub 2.0 volt's!?
    So the question as above stated is:
    Do the coppermines die instantly on 2.0 volt?
    OR how much will they take for a short time?
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  • #2
    A while back Maggi told he once accidentally booted his C2 at 2.2v. It melt some of the glue around the chip I think, but it survived. I don't know how long he had it running, before he found out.
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    • #3
      I've been running my P3-700E at 1.8v for 7 months without any problems. I'm using an Alpha P3125 for cooling. It never gets above 34 DegC.

      Paul

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      • #4
        Paul:

        Why are you running so much voltage? I can run the same CPU at stock 1.65 at the same speed you run. I run 933 (133*7) with 1.75 volts.

        The Rock
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        • #5
          My processor won't run at 133MHz even at 1.85v. This one just won't go that high. I have run other P3s at 133 and above on this same system.

          Paul
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          • #6
            Hey Rock, isn't yours the FCPGA processor?? Mines an early slot1 P3-700E not all the early slot1's were good overclockers.

            Do you guys think that the FCPGA's are better for overclocking?????


            PAul
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            • #7
              Sisyfos is right on that one ...

              I have a Cel-566 which is supposed to run at 1.5 VCore, but below 1.8 volts it didn't even POST on my old MoBo.

              I have the Asus P2B-S Rev 1.02 and according to ASUS it had to be at least Rev 1.04 in order to support Coppermine CPUs (which the new Celerons basically are except for half of its L2 cache being disabled).

              Setting the VCore to 1.8 volts by setting the proper jumpers on my A-Bit SlotKET!!! let me boot into windows @ 100MHz FSB, giving me 850MHz core frequency and with standard HS/fan combo from Pabst I had it rock stable at that speed.

              Wanting more juice (as usual) I tried 112MHz FSB and the CPU got unstable above 50°C ...
              therefore I attached a 2nd fan to the heatsink and upped the VCore to 1.85

              Ever since I run at 952MHz CPU core and had no lockups caused by my OCing (the ones I had were caused by some buggy beta drivers )

              That 2.2 Volts accident happened while I was visiting a friend of mine who has the Asus P2B-F Rev 1.10 (ASUS says need Rev 1.12).
              We wanted to check whether we'd get it running on his machine also, but we both had forgotten that he modified his MoBo a while ago, by adding jumpers for VCore selection.
              Those jumpers obviously override the Slotket settings and hence it didn't POST at all, leaving us quite frustrated ...

              I went home and got a phone call from my friend a few hours later and he was quite worried if my CPU would still be alive ...
              I told him 'yes, I'm running it right now ... why do you ask ?'

              He reminded me of his remodeling and that his jumpers were still set to 2.2 Volts, because his Cel-300@450 required it for stability.
              I instantly shut down my PC, ripped out the CPU, unstripped the HS and had a close look ...

              There was a little black puddle around the die !!!
              Closer examination with magnifying glass revealed there was some very dark plastic kind of material between the die and the PCB which obviously got melted due to excessive overheating.



              I'm more than happy that my CPU is still working properly after this little mistake we made and it's also still stable at 952MHz ...

              If you're interested in more details about those Clerons, look here: http://forums.murc.ws/ubb/Forum3/HTML/001980.html

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              • #8
                running slot1 700e(cb0) with 1.75v for the magic giga on be6-2
                jim

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                • #9
                  this MC-1000 is amazing

                  While setting up my "spare" system, I decided to throw it on the P3-550e (cb0) that going in it along with an Abit bf6 and went right to 825 (5.5*150) first shot!

                  Expensive, but can be used on any type cpu by switching kits
                  jim

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                  • #10
                    Paul:

                    I think the Celeron 533 / 566 have proven that the coppermine is a far superior overclocker than older slot 1's. 300mhz over spec ain't too shabby. My 700FC runs at 933 right outta the box with a stock Intel fan / heatsink (which I put on with a litte thermal grease). As long as you have good ram, a good mobo, and a video card that can stand running AGP 1x at 90mhz, 933 is there for the taking.

                    Mine:
                    Asus P3B-F + 128MB PC133 (2 different brands x 64MB)
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                    • #11
                      My 500E runs at 1.75 volts no problem to get it to reach 667. (Also pushed the I/O up...)

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                      • #12
                        Thanks Rock, I just ordered a P3-750E, SECC2
                        with cBO stepping from Atacom.
                        http://www.atacom.com/program/atacom...FAN2|FAN5|THER

                        It should do better than my older P3-700E which has cA2 stepping. Rumor is that the cBO stepping chips are from 933MHz wafers.
                        I'm going to stick with my BE6 mobo for awhile longer till the dust settles with these new chipsets. So one more slot1 processor for this guy

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                        • #13
                          Lucky Bastards. My P3-750 (cA2) is running at 825 (only 75MHz over spec), 110 FSB. Failed to POST at 124, failed to get into Windows at 120. I didn't even think about trying 133 FSB (1GHz). I have a Tennmax P3STF. I've had it running at 825 for 2 days. No problems so far, temp hovers below 43C. Any tips to help me get it higher?

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                          [This message has been edited by Liquid Snake (edited 29 July 2000).]

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                          • #14
                            Paul:

                            If those rumors are true about 933, then it would explain how easily I achieved 933 since mine happens to be the latest FC700 cb0 stepping. I'm still in slot 1 too; I actually love this slocket. It's like having a normal slot 1, only you get rid of all the unneeded black casing plus you get a wide selection of good cooling fans to pick from, and you can apply the thermal grease yourself. Good luck with the 750. Keep the curious posted.

                            Liquid Snake:

                            What kind of voltage adjustments did you make when attempting those speeds?

                            Bart
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                            [This message has been edited by The Rock (edited 29 July 2000).]
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                            • #15
                              Hey Bart, I have a Alpha P3125 which should work well with this new 750. I'm getting an OEM so I don't have to remove the retail heatsink/fan on this one.

                              Liquid Snake, it make take awhile to burn in.
                              It sounds like you have the voltage bumped up already by the 43 degC temp. You may want to consider an Alpha cooler. I'm using a 7896 Addtronics case with the same PC Power and cooling 350W power supply.
                              http://www.2cooltek.com/index.html

                              My P3-700E slot1 runs at 34 degC at 1.8 volts
                              at 124MHz using the Alpha P3125 in summer. A bit cooler in winter.

                              Paul
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