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  • Coppermine or Athlon.

    Well? Which way should I go. Since I have no opinions of my own, please give me one.

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    Ami Y. Koriuchi - foxyviolet@hotmail.com
    Asus P3BF 1003.A - P3-500 - G400Max
    256MB 6NS - 75 GB of 10k RPM SCSI UW

    Hello... my name is ami. and this is my signature.

    Ami Y. Koriuchi - MY EMAIL IS DEAD

    SYSTEM1
    Asus K7V266 - Athlon XP 1800+ - GeForce 4 TI 4600 128MB -
    1024 MB PC2100 DDR -
    200 GB UDMA100 7200 RPM - 60GB LVD 160 10K RPM

    SYSTEM2
    Asus A7V133 - Athlon 1.4 - G400Max
    768MB PC133 - 75 GB of 10k RPM SCSI UW

    HI SOMETiMES I GO AWAY FOR LONG TIME AND COME BACK YEARS LATER HI!

  • #2
    Athlon

    1-Faster
    2-Cheaper



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    System 1:
    Microstar K7Pro (MS-6195) Motherboard, AMD Athlon 550 @ 900MHz, 256MB PC-100 CAS2 SDRAM, Matrox Millennium G400 DualHead Max, Matrox Rainbow Runner G-Series, Creative Soundblaster Live! Player 1024, Promise FastTak66 RAID Controller, 2 x 13.5GB IBM ATA/66 HDD's, Panasonic SR-8584 6x DVD-ROM, Yamaha CRW8424 IDE CDR/RW, Panasonic SuperDisk LS-120, Netgear FA310TX 100m/bit PCI NIC.

    System 2:
    Microstar MS-6167 Motherboard, AMD Athlon 500 @ 750MHz, 128MB PC-133 SDRAM, Matrox Millennium G400 DualHead, Creative Soundblaster Live! Value, 22GB IBM ATA/66 HDD, Hitachi GD-2500 4x DVD-ROM, Linksys LNE100TX 100m/bit PCI NIC.

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    • #3
      No!!! RoGuE

      CU-Mine

      Easier to Overclock!!!, but availability is bad!



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      A-Trend Mobo 6240 V2
      160MB PC100
      I-Will Slocket2
      PIII Coppermine 500e@690
      Windows98SE
      Matrox G400 32 D/H (5.41 drivers)
      Soundblaster 1024 Live @3.0 drivers
      8.4 West Dig (ATA 33)
      6.4 Fugitsu (ATA 66)
      MS Intell/Explorer USB
      Pioneer 6/32x DVD
      Memorex 48X CD
      Altec lansing Sub + 2 satelite speakers

      SuSe Linux soon to be installed (proper operating System)


      Old Joes's Going for IT!!!
      A-Trend Mobo 6240 V2
      Custom Heatsink/Globalwinfan setup
      128MB/PC133/PC100 Combo
      I-Will Slocket2
      PIII Coppermine 500e@690 FSB 138
      Windows98SE
      Matrox G400 32 D/H (Latest drivers)
      Soundblaster 1024 Live @3.0 drivers
      8.4 West Dig (ATA 33)
      6.4 Fugitsu (ATA 66)
      MS Intell/Explorer USB
      Pioneer 6/32x DVD
      Memorex 48X CD
      Altec lansing Sub + 2 satelite speakers

      Golden Orb (www.plycon.com) being installed soon


      Old Joes's Going for IT!!!

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      • #4
        Wait for AMD Athlon Thunderbird, Coppermine will be outperformed in such a bad way that the only thing that Intell will see is this:
        DUST!


        Mega


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        K6-3 400Mhz@450Mhz
        G400 16MB, 192MB Ram and so on
        K6-3 400Mhz@450Mhz
        G400 16MB, 192MB Ram and so on

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        • #5
          JoeDredd,

          Yes CuMine PIII's do overclock well, but they are expensive compared to the Athlon.

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          Micro-Star K7Pro (MS-6195) Motherboard, AMD Athlon 550 @ 900MHz , 256MB PC-100 CAS2 SDRAM, Matrox Millennium G400 DualHead Max, Matrox Rainbow Runner G-Series, Creative Soundblaster Live! Player 1024, Promise FastTak66 RAID Controller (not currently active), 22GB IBM ATA/66 HDD, Panasonic SR-8584 6x DVD-ROM, Yamaha CRW8424 IDE CDR/RW, Panasonic SuperDisk LS-120, Netgear FA310TX 100m/bit PCI NIC. Windows 98SE / Windows 2000 Pro Dual Boot.

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          • #6
            Athlon

            They are faster, easier to find, very overclockable (except you may need to lower the L2 cache speed), and compatability really isn't an issue right now. I have a cheap Biostar motherboard and everything but my RAM worked flawlessly from the get go (RAM prices are so low right now who cares).

            What a second...didn't I say the exact opposite about the PIII/K6-3 debate last year...

            My $0.02

            Jammrock

            PS - I would never flame you Gurm...wait, nevermind

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            Athlon 650, Biostar board, 128 MB PC133 (Crucial), G400 32 MB DH, SB Live! w/ Digital I/O, 10/100 NIC, lots of case fans, etc...

            [This message has been edited by Jammrock (edited 29 February 2000).]
            “Inside every sane person there’s a madman struggling to get out”
            –The Light Fantastic, Terry Pratchett

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            • #7
              P III 800 with 256MB of 800MHz RAMBUS. Go for it Ami.
              MSI K7D Master L, Water Cooled, All SCSI
              Modded XP2000's @ 1800 (12.5 x 144 FSB)
              512MB regular Crucial PC2100
              Matrox P
              X15 36-LP Cheetahs In RAID 0
              LianLiPC70

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              • #8
                256MB of Rambus nice and cheap

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                • #9
                  Yeah, 256 MB RDRAM should only run you $1300-$2500USD, no big deal right?

                  Crucial, aka Micron, PC133 SDRAM is down to $107 (7.5ns) and $117 (7ns). Generic stuff can be bought for well under $100 for PC100 SDRAM.

                  Jammrock
                  “Inside every sane person there’s a madman struggling to get out”
                  –The Light Fantastic, Terry Pratchett

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                  • #10
                    BX is the only commonly available stable chipset (Athlon fans, don't start flaming me but it's friggin' TRUE, ok? The current crop of Athlon boards leave something to be desired in the stable/compatible arenas!) on the market
                    [FLAME MODE] I don't think so m8. My Athlon systems are as stable/compatible as any BX based PC I've used and they're massively overclcked too - still rock solid. [/FLAME MODE]

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                    System 1:
                    Micro-Star K7Pro (MS-6195) Motherboard, AMD Athlon 550 @ 900MHz , 256MB PC-100 CAS2 SDRAM, Matrox Millennium G400 DualHead Max, Matrox Rainbow Runner G-Series, Creative Soundblaster Live! Player 1024, Promise FastTak66 RAID Controller (not currently active), 22GB IBM ATA/66 HDD, Panasonic SR-8584 6x DVD-ROM, Yamaha CRW8424 IDE CDR/RW, Panasonic SuperDisk LS-120, Netgear FA310TX 100m/bit PCI NIC. Windows 98SE / Windows 2000 Pro (Dual Boot).

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                    • #11
                      Athlon.
                      But get an MSI board. They run very stably. Plus I assume you have an excellent case so shouldn't have too many probs really. Compatibility is not much of an issue either.
                      I advise anyone on the forum to check with Greebe when considering buying an Athlon he does have a wealth of knowledge and firsthand experience with them unlike some other people
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                      • #12
                        Yes. Gurm is usually pretty well informed, but this time he's completely wrong.
                        If you bo with the MSI boards, they're incredibly stable. I recommend getting a MB with only AMD chips, and no VIA chips (Asus K7M is no good, then). My computer is more stable than any other machine I've ever seen, and I'm even over-clocking.

                        -Wombat


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                        MSI-6167 w/ Athlon 500@750 (thx Greebe!), 128MB Crucial PC133, G400MAX,SBLive!-MP3,Pioneer 10x DVD, Phillips CD-R, a hard drive or two, and a Sony 420GS. Running RH6.1, and Win98 (when I have to).


                        Gigabyte P35-DS3L with a Q6600, 2GB Kingston HyperX (after *3* bad pairs of Crucial Ballistix 1066), Galaxy 8800GT 512MB, SB X-Fi, some drives, and a Dell 2005fpw. Running WinXP.

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                        • #13
                          I´m with RoGuE and Wombat here. If any, Athlon systems are more stable than the BX conterparts.

                          BTW, Gigabyte GA-7IX and GA-7IXE are reported to be among the most stable and compatible Athlon boards. I have a 7IX myself and all I can say is that it´s rock stable with an Athlon 600.

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                          • #14
                            ... Yeah, Lack of wunnerful motherboards is the only thing making me shy away from Athlon right now really. At least lack of motherboards that i haven't heard lots of good reviews of. If I did go for that i'd probably go with the Asus K7M if I can get it... because, well, I guess I trust Asus.

                            People tell me that Biostar is horrible, and I've never heard of MSI...

                            As for my case, yeah, that's not a problem.

                            Don't think I can afford Rambus at this point though.



                            ------------------
                            Ami Y. Koriuchi - foxyviolet@hotmail.com
                            Asus P3BF 1003.A - P3-500 - G400Max
                            256MB 6NS - 75 GB of 10k RPM SCSI UW

                            Hello... my name is ami. and this is my signature.

                            Ami Y. Koriuchi - MY EMAIL IS DEAD

                            SYSTEM1
                            Asus K7V266 - Athlon XP 1800+ - GeForce 4 TI 4600 128MB -
                            1024 MB PC2100 DDR -
                            200 GB UDMA100 7200 RPM - 60GB LVD 160 10K RPM

                            SYSTEM2
                            Asus A7V133 - Athlon 1.4 - G400Max
                            768MB PC133 - 75 GB of 10k RPM SCSI UW

                            HI SOMETiMES I GO AWAY FOR LONG TIME AND COME BACK YEARS LATER HI!

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                            • #15
                              I have a Biostar Athlon motherboard I got in a package for cheap so I am not complaining. The Biostar works fine with all my hardware, but my old RAM. 128 MB of Crucial/Micron RAM fixed that, though. The Biostar is a bare bones board that gets the job done.

                              Jammrock

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                              Athlon 650, Biostar board, 128 MB PC133 (Crucial), G400 32 MB DH, SB Live! w/ Digital I/O, 10/100 NIC, lots of case fans, etc...
                              “Inside every sane person there’s a madman struggling to get out”
                              –The Light Fantastic, Terry Pratchett

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