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    Consumer Product Safety Commission Drywall Information Center: http://www.cpsc.gov/info/drywall/index.html

    AP link....

    Feds: Homes with Chinese drywall must be gutted

    NEW ORLEANS (AP) - Thousands of U.S. homes tainted by Chinese drywall should be completely gutted, according to new guidelines released Friday by the Consumer Product Safety Commission.

    The guidelines say electrical wiring, outlets, circuit breakers, fire alarm systems, carbon monoxide alarms, fire sprinklers, gas pipes and drywall need to be removed.


    "We want families to tear it all out and rebuild the interior of their homes, and they need to start this to get their lives started all over again," said Inez Tenenbaum, chairwoman of the commission, the federal agency charged with making sure consumer products are safe.

    About 3,000 homeowners, mostly in Florida, Virginia, Mississippi, Alabama and Louisiana, have reported problems with the Chinese-made drywall, which was imported in large quantities during the housing boom and after a string of Gulf Coast hurricanes.

    The drywall has been linked to corrosion of wiring, air conditioning units, computers, doorknobs and jewelry, along with possible health effects. Tenenbaum said some samples of the Chinese-made product emit 100 times as much hydrogen sulfide as drywall made elsewhere.

    The agency continues to investigate possible health effects, but preliminary studies have found a possible link between throat, nose and lung irritation and high levels of hydrogen sulfide gas emitted from the wallboard, coupled with formaldehyde, which is commonly found in new houses.

    U.S. Sen. Bill Nelson, D-Fla., said now the question is who pays to gut the homes.

    "The way I see it, homeowners didn't cause this. The manufacturers in China did," Nelson said. "That's why we've got to go after the Chinese government now."

    Southern members of Congress have sought to make it easier to sue Chinese manufacturers and to get the Federal Emergency Management Agency to help homeowners pay for costs not covered by insurance. They also say the U.S. needs to pressure the Chinese government, which allegedly ran some of the companies that made defective drywall.

    About 2,100 homeowners have filed suit in federal court in New Orleans against Chinese manufacturers and U.S. companies that sold the drywall. U.S. District Judge Eldon Fallon is expected to rule soon in a pivotal case against the Knauf Plasterboard Tianjin Co., the only Chinese company that has responded to U.S. suits.

    Separate claims by thousands more homeowners against Chinese manufacturers are pending, said Jordan Chaikin, a Florida lawyer whose firm represents about 1,000 homeowners.

    They are "continuing to live in their homes with Chinese drywall, patiently waiting for this thing to be resolved so they can move on with their lives," Chaikin said. "We're not waiting for the government to move quicker than we are in the courts."

    In some cases, homebuilders have paid to gut and rewire homes. In others, homeowners who can afford it have paid for the work themselves. Knauf Plasterboard has offered to pay for remediation in homes where its defective drywall was installed.

    Daniel Becnel, a New Orleans lawyer representing Chinese drywall plaintiffs, including Sean Payton, the head coach of the Super Bowl champion New Orleans Saints, said the government guidelines issued Friday were "word for word what our experts said."

    He also said Congress should give homeowners grants to cover the cost of home gutting.

    "Get these people out of this environment," he said. "You're making these people sicker and sicker and sicker. You will have long-term effects."

    In Cape Coral, Fla., Joyce Dowdy, 71, and her husband Sonny, 63, plan to move out of their $150,000, 1,600-square-foot home while it is gutted to get rid of tainted Chinese drywall.

    Joyce Dowdy said she suffers from nose bleeds and her husband has a persistent cough. They blame the drywall.

    "We can't live like this anymore," Joyce Dowdy.

    They're borrowing money to do the gutting, which means that instead of a mortgage-free retirement they will be paying monthly bills cover the costs of repair.

    "It's costing us as much as we paid for the house," Joyce Dowdy said. "But we can't just walk away ... Our house is worth nothing at the moment."
    Last edited by Dr Mordrid; 2 April 2010, 13:35.
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  • #2
    Good luck trying to get anything out of the Chinese..
    paulw

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    • #3
      Are there no Quality checks done before something is imported ?

      This should have been picked up earlier, shouldn't it ? before people put loads of it into their homes ?
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      • #4
        It took about a year for everyone to notice all was not well with the drywall.
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        • #5
          In the EU there are standards to which a product has to be constructed.
          These are minimum standards.

          I would have expected said drywall to be taken apart and checked before importation, and then sue the company for changing the configuration or fabrication of the drywall when defects are discovered.

          Giving off Hydrogen sulphide would mean that some of the materials are decomposing or breaking down.
          It shouldn't be too difficult to find out why and how..

          Then find the US contrator(s) who bought the stuff, and made money off it (cos it was really cheap).

          Who imported it, and who let it be imported.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by paulw View Post
            Good luck trying to get anything out of the Chinese..
            True but they can at least stop importing from them, really hurt their business. Maybe that'll teach em a lesson!

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Evildead666 View Post
              In the EU there are standards to which a product has to be constructed.
              These are minimum standards..
              We have here in NZ but it didn't stop builders using substandard monolithic building cladding between 1995 and 2005 allowing moisture and water to get inside the walls causing dryrot or what is called here "leaky building syndrome" The repairs will cost billion$$ to fix and no one seems responsible. The building companies as soon as they had their final payments were wound up and new ones created. Can't sue a building company that doesn't exist any longer..
              paulw

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              • #8
                Originally posted by paulw View Post
                We have here in NZ but it didn't stop builders using substandard monolithic building cladding between 1995 and 2005 allowing moisture and water to get inside the walls causing dryrot or what is called here "leaky building syndrome" The repairs will cost billion$$ to fix and no one seems responsible. The building companies as soon as they had their final payments were wound up and new ones created. Can't sue a building company that doesn't exist any longer..
                no, but the guy that used to own it
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Technoid View Post
                  no, but the guy that used to own it
                  I wish it was like that here.. a lot of construction companies work like that, building crap, then when people start complaining, they go out of business and start up a new one, with a different name the next day..
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                  • #10
                    Yes, it happens very frequently unfortunately.

                    At home here we have a Septic tank filter that was badly installed, 9 years ago, which has been bypassed until they do the work. It has sunk into the ground,and water can't flow upwards....
                    The company has folded....~36 homes in the village and the one nextdoor are concerned by the same problem.

                    It takes waaaaay too long to persue.....
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Technoid View Post
                      no, but the guy that used to own it
                      No assets. They put all their money into a family trust which can't be touched by the courts..
                      paulw

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                      • #12
                        That's about it, plus you have groups like 'The Travelers' - gypsy gangs that set up & do home jobs using inferior materials then leave jobs half an/or poorly done. Thefts, fraud, you name it. The major gangs live down south and come north in summer to prey on the elderly and suckers. Quite a problem in the US.
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                        • #13
                          maybe not the same demographic causing it, but if you have ever seen "Holmes on Homes" you would see that it is quite an issue here too
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