No UDMA in Asus P2B and Quantum Fireball 10.2A

[alessandro]

OK .....

This is may settings:

IRQ=

00 System timer
01 standard 101/102-key or Microsoft Natural Keyboard
02 Programmable interupt controller
03 Communications Port (COM2)
04 Communications Port (COM1)
05 Creative SB Live! Value
05 Intel 82371AB/EB pci to USB Universal Host Controller
05 IRQ Holder for PCI Steering
06 Standard Floppy Disk Controller
07 ECP Printer Port (LPT1)
08 System CMOS/rel time clock
09 Creative SB16 Emulation
10 Adaptec AIC-7850 PCI SCSI Controller
10 IRQ Holder for PCI Steering
11 Matrox Millenium G400 (MAX) DualHead-English
11 IRQ Holder for PCI Streering
12 WheelMouse 1 (PS/2)
13 Numeric data processor
14 Intel 82371AB/EB PCI Bus Master IDE Controller
14 Primary IDE controler (dual fifo)
15 Intel 82371AB/EB PCI Bus Master IDE Controller
15 Secondary IDE controler (dual fifo)

and the DMA settings:

01 Creative SB16 Emulation
02 Standard Floppy Disk Controller <----- a DMA for a floppy disk??????
03 ECP Printer Port (LPT1)
04 Direct memory access controller
07 Crative SB16 Emulation

In my Bios Asus Award rev1011, i have the following settings:

IDE HDD Block -mode Sectors----->HDD MAX
HDD S.M.A.R.T capability --------->Enabled
IDE Ultra DMA Mode -------------->AUTO
PCI Latency Timer------------------->32 PCI Clock

It detect my Quantum Fireball 10.2A Perfectly as a LBA UDMA 2 hard disk.
I use AUTO in my settings and so my bios dont use Quantum setting for my
disk(the Quantum setting are for Normal drives not for LBA as my bios
indicates me). (I suppose tha my hard disk is LBA isn't it??????)

SIZE Cyls Head Precomp Lands Sectors
10257 1247 255 0 19884 63

I use WIN98SE for 2 weeks but my problem exist long before when i used Win98
first edition. HDTach 2.60or 2.50 gives me for 10 monts now 8.800 mb/sec at
99% CPU use.
I use a PII450 @504Mhz but o/c only for the last 1 month.(4.5x112Mhz)
My Firaball is connected with a 12inch IDE cable in Primary IDE socket all
alone.My Creative DVD5240E-1 is also using another 12inch IDE cable and
connected in Secondary IDE socket.
In device manager i get my hard disk as a GENERIC IDE DISK TYPE 47
The DMA box is not checked and when i check it it gives me the following
message:
(((( Unsupported hardware alert.
changing this setting may have undesirable effects with your hardware.
Contact your hardware ventror to ensure that this settings is supported.)))

I have even ordered a UDMA66 cable as my last hope.
Any suggestions?????????


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Pentium II -450Mhz@504,Asus P2B rev.1010,17" Sony Multiscan 200PST,128MB PC100 ram,Matrox Millenium G400 MAX 32MB 5ns SGRAM,Quantum Firebal 10.2Gb,Epson Stylus Color 740,Sound blaster Live!,Cambrige Soundworks 5.1,Creative PC-DVD 5X,Ricoh MP7040S,Adaptec SCSI 2920C,Diamond SupraExpress 56e PRO.

[Rags]

Just check the DMA box, reboot and you should be just fine. IF not, you can always boot in safe mode and change it.

Rags

[alessandro]

Rags,

The problem is that even if i check the DMA box and restart, it never stays checked.(it seems than win98 dont like my hard drive.
However my bios detects my hard drive fine:
LBA UDMA-2

[alessandro]

I already tried !!!!!
The only thing left to me is too use a UDMA 66 cable (i ordered one).
I hope this will help(i hope is the same socket size so i can use it in my P2B)

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Pentium II -450Mhz@504,Asus P2B rev.1010,17" Sony Multiscan 200PST,128MB PC100 ram,Matrox Millenium G400 MAX 32MB 5ns SGRAM,Quantum Firebal 10.2Gb,Epson Stylus Color 740,Sound blaster Live!,Cambrige Soundworks 5.1,Creative PC-DVD 5X,Ricoh MP7040S,Adaptec SCSI 2920C,Diamond SupraExpress 56e PRO.

[Zwisch]

you can always load your CMOS default values and start over if you thing someting is wrong in there....

[Alfie]

The cable fits into ide connector,but unless your mobo supports udma 66,it will serve no added benifit,connected to a mobo that only supports udma 33,it will default to this.
Double check the hard drives parameters as to what the bios is reporting it as.
Please correct me if I'm wrong,but I thought udma33 was mode 4.
Also make sure all things in bios are enabled as to your hard drive ie.smart drive,etc.
Quantum's website can furnish you with all the pertinent info you may need,so check there.

[This message has been edited by Alfie (edited 02 November 1999).]

[alessandro]

I KNOW I CAN GET UDMA66.
But that wasn't the case for buying the UDMA66 cable.
The problem is that i can get U-DMA33 or else UDMA-2 (UDMA-4 IS UDMA66).
After 4 moths of serrching about the subject
it is my only sollution.
BECAUSE i can find here in Coventry UK a VERY good quality IDE cable ,the alternative
chose was to buy a UDMA66 cable hopping to have the DMA box in device manager PERMANENTLY checked.
I know that if someone owns a UDMA66 card or it is integrated in his MOBO he can get 66MB/s(in theory at least)ONLY if he use a UDMA66 cable in his UDMA66 Hard disk.
So lets hope i get what my hard disk is capable of!!!!!!!!

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Pentium II -450Mhz@504,Asus P2B rev.1010,17" Sony Multiscan 200PST,128MB PC100 ram,Matrox Millenium G400 MAX 32MB 5ns SGRAM,Quantum Firebal 10.2Gb,Epson Stylus Color 740,Sound blaster Live!,Cambrige Soundworks 5.1,Creative PC-DVD 5X,Ricoh MP7040S,Adaptec SCSI 2920C,Diamond SupraExpress 56e PRO.

[alessandro]

Wrong spelling:

I KNOW I CAN'T GET UDMA66

[alessandro]

About the modes:

Slow(old protocole)------>Fast(new protocols)

PIO1....PIO3-->PIO4------>UDMA2------>UDMA4

[alessandro]

By the way ,it may be that my bios is stating that i'm using UDMA-2(the FU**ING WIN98SE dont) so i'm using the mode PIO4 and i'm getting 8800Mb/sec(HDTach)but a pitfull
99%CPU use<-----THIS is why i'm trying to get UDMA ....TO GET AT LEAST 33% CPU use.

[Brent]

I am a bit late here-been doing the fdisk boogy.
Looking at your bios revision, check your hard drive vendors site. Award bioses and others pre I think 10 98 need you to install a UDMA 66 hard drive patch or upgrade to the latest bios.

[alessandro]

Guys,

Maybe u don't understand but i DON'T have a UDMA 66 hard drive(Quantum Fireball EL 10.2A)
The problem is that i CAN'T get UDMA 33 and quantum are the worst company about patches(they go a UDMA 66 patch last week ...but i can't use it obviously).

[Johnny Ray]

Alessandro,

I was having a similar problem with my Seagate Medalist Pro and Asus P2B. Box just would not stay checked. Switched to one of those fancy UDMA cables, and Bingo, haven't had a problem since. So your cable idea sounds good to me.

Let us know when you figure it out.

John

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PIII450 => 504 MHz, Asus P2B, G400MAX, PowerDesk 5.30, Aureal 2500 Vortex2, DirectX 7.0, Adaptec AHA-2940UW and Fireport40 Dual UW SCSI controllers, etc.


[This message has been edited by Johnny Ray (edited 07 November 1999).]

[alessandro]

I'm using right now a UDMA66 cable that i ordered last monday.
I still can't get UDMA33 in my UDMA33 Hard disk!!!!!!!

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Pentium II -450Mhz@504,Asus P2B rev.1010,17" Sony Multiscan 200PST,128MB PC100 ram,Matrox Millenium G400 MAX 32MB 5ns SGRAM,Quantum Firebal EL 10.2Gb,Epson Stylus Color 740,Sound blaster Live!,Cambridge Soundworks 5.1,Creative PC-DVD 5X,Ricoh MP7040S,Adaptec SCSI 2920C,Diamond SupraExpress 56e PRO.

[Johnny Ray]

alessandro,

Give this link a look:

http://www.windows-help.net/windows98/tune-35.shtml

Lots o' info and good links. I seem to recall this site helping me...


John

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PIII450 =&gt; 504 MHz, Asus P2B, G400MAX, PowerDesk 5.30, Aureal 2500 Vortex2, DirectX 7.0, Adaptec AHA-2940UW and Fireport40 Dual UW SCSI controllers, etc.