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Dr Mordrid
13th February 2007, 05:06
http://www.theregister.com/2007/02/13/inphase_shipping_holographic/


InPhase Technologies has begun bulk shipping of its 300GB holographic storage disks and drives, the firm said yesterday.

The Tapestry HDS-300R drive costs $18,000, with the 1.5mm-thick platters running to $180 a piece. The firm already claims a series of high profile customers, including Turner Broadcasting, the US Geological Survey, and Lockheed Martin.

InPhase's roadmap sees a series of capacity increases, with disks expanded to 1.6TB in 2010. Data is currently transferred from the platters, which are expected to have a 50-year lifespan, at 20MB/s.

InPhase marketing VP Liz Murphy said: "We've also tried to make it as easy to integrate as possible from a software perspective. So it can emulate a DVD, CD-R, magnetic optical disc or tape drive. So software companies don't have to do any major changes to write to it in native mode."

Despite pitching the price point somewhere in the mid to high-end tape drive, InPhase says it is not interested in the backup market and will concentrate on archiving. CEO Nelson Diaz said: "We're not going to play in the backup market at all."

A re-writeable version of the format is expected in 2008, however.

More here (http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9011144&source=rss_news10) at Computerworld.

Technoid
14th February 2007, 01:00
Wow, a technology that has finaly left the vaporware crowd :p

Wulfman
14th February 2007, 03:23
yeah, but it doesn't look at all like a roll of tesa film. strange.

mfg
wulfman

TransformX
14th February 2007, 08:25
The Tapestry HDS-300R drive costs $18,000, with the 1.5mm-thick platters running to $180 a piece.
Reminds me of Sony's MiniDisc. When they finally price it in a sensible way, it'll be too late for anyone to care. :rolleyes:

Technoid
14th February 2007, 12:50
Reminds me of Sony's MiniDisc. When they finally price it in a sensible way, it'll be too late for anyone to care. :rolleyes:

They ARE pricing it in a sensible way ;)

They just dont give a damn about the consumer level market ;)

Claymonkey
14th February 2007, 13:08
This thread restarted Gurm's and my semi-regular discussion of a backup method that doesn't cost an arm and a leg for personal use. Tape really isn't an option price wise for personal use and it seems to get the space needed to backup today's hard drives you have to use a hard drive. That our have stacks and stacks of DVD's... which isn't always justifiable or cheap if you have a 500GB drive to backup

Dr Mordrid
14th February 2007, 13:24
RAID 1? Drive1 is constantly backed to drive2 in real time. The odds of both dying at once is slim.

Claymonkey
14th February 2007, 13:26
RAID 1? Drive1 is constantly backed to drive2 in real time. The odds of both dying at once is slim.

Yes and I'm thinking about doing Raid5 but again this is leading back to what I said about harddrive based solutions.... I'd like a media method. More than anything I'd like something off site or in a security deposit box. Again, a drive could work but bleh....

Wombat
14th February 2007, 17:01
Reminds me of Sony's MiniDisc. When they finally price it in a sensible way, it'll be too late for anyone to care. :rolleyes: That IS a sensible price. Hell, it's pretty cheap, as far as storage density/$

TransformX
15th February 2007, 01:16
By "they", I meant InPhase. At 18k for the drive and 180$ for a non rewritable media with an abysmal 20MB/s speed, I'd stick with remote location HDD backup.

az
15th February 2007, 02:44
Have you seen what Seagate's Savvio drives cost?

Nappe1
15th February 2007, 05:59
They ARE pricing it in a sensible way ;)

They just dont give a damn about the consumer level market ;)


If Holographic technology would cheap, we would have had own holograph cameras for years already before the film era started to end. Unfortunately, it's not cheap and it has some serious limitations for photography use, like totally inaccurate color information and massive size of equipment. :)

I think I saw Holographic Photo Studio at Graz, Austria. At least they had one window dedicated for Holography and it displayed some really nice 3D portrait shots in- and outside of the glass cubes. Unfortunately the prices were nice too. Not for customer though. :D (it was actually cheaper than I expected... in 10 years the expenses taking sing holographic picture had dropped in 1/10th what it used to be, but still 350 Euros from one picture is a bit too steep, don't you think?)

so, here we are with this HVD tech that acording to internet rumours was about to replace DVD/BluRay/HDDVD in xmas 2006.... ;) yet another excelent example of information dispersion happening in Internet. :) Sure it is wonderful tehcnology and I have no doubt it finding it's place where some serious archiving is needed, but it will take 5 to 10 years, before it reaches consumer prices (Mr. Stetson gave me this estimate. ;) ), if not something even better comes and replaces it before that.

Nowhere
15th February 2007, 06:22
Doc, what if whole computer "dies" somehow? :p

Dr Mordrid
15th February 2007, 06:26
You plan on dunking it in the tub? :confused:

Wulfman
15th February 2007, 07:16
lightning? yeah, I know: UPS, surge protectors. psu can die and take everything down, etc.

at the moment I favor a raid5 home server (linux) and a external usb2.0 hdd.

mfg
wulfman

az
15th February 2007, 15:16
External USB2 HDDs and automated backups at night (HDDs on a timer switch). These are also easy to rescue in case of a fire etc, if the data is that important.

Taz
16th February 2007, 00:47
Tape really isn't an option price wise for personal use....

Yes and No, if you look on the clearance pages of online resellers you can sometimes pickup a bargain. Like an Ultrium 2 200/400Gb drive for £280 which a mate of mine has just bought :)


...and it seems to get the space needed to backup today's hard drives you have to use a hard drive.

The highest capacity tape drive is 800/1600Gb, (SLT S4 (http://www.quantum.com/Products/TapeDrives/DLT/dlt-s4/Index.aspx)), which should cover all but the most extreme home system ;) Unfortunately your back to your first point about cost then :ermm:

Nowhere
16th February 2007, 10:05
You plan on dunking it in the tub? :confused:

See, you give examples yourself :p (floods)

Dr Mordrid
16th February 2007, 16:49
:p

Only "system killer" I've seen was a 3 year old (Erik) who stuck a screwdriver in the P/S.

Claymonkey
16th February 2007, 16:54
Having just survived a fire that could have been a lot worse my desire for a good backup solution has increased a great deal. Having a tape or a drive that is no where near my location would be useful.