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Mehen
22nd December 2005, 16:52
Starting to see some BIG (over 70"s!) DLP rear projection tv's with 1080p on the market, from Samsung and Toshiba, and I'm sure many others.

1080p seems to be the "ultimate" in hi-def and looks like it will be for quite some time to come.

Now bring on the HD content already!!!

Here's a 72" 1080p from Toshiba
http://www.toshiba.ca/web/product.grp?lg=en&section=2&group=6&product=5162&category=

Mehen
2nd January 2006, 16:16
http://theinquirer.net/?article=28527

ATI & 1080p - available in the full X1000 lineup with new 5.13 driver.

KvHagedorn
3rd January 2006, 20:39
We've sold a couple of 73" Mitsubishis already.

KvHagedorn
3rd January 2006, 20:40
1080p seems to be the "ultimate" in hi-def and looks like it will be for quite some time to come.


I'll remember that comment later this year. ;)

Jammrock
3rd January 2006, 21:23
1080i is the highest resolution supported by the ATSC broadcast standard. FOr non-broadcast media it goes up to 1080p. However, there are already people who are trying to bump up the resolution already ... though mainly for professional and enthusist use.

The film industry wants to double the 1080p resolution, stating that 1080p just doesn't cut for the big screen theaters. On top of that, I can't remember/find the article, there was some other comapny that is trying to release a higher resolution video standard on their own for enthusist use.

Dr Mordrid
3rd January 2006, 22:03
Enter UHDV AKA: Super Hi-Vision; a format being pushed by NHK, Ikegami Tsushinki, JVC and DALSA (a high-tech imaging h/w company hq'd in Waterloo, Ontario).

UHDV’s major features include 7,680 × 4,320, a refresh rate of 60 fps, 22.2 audio and a 100-degree field of view :eek:

At ~33 megapixels it might take 10 years to get there but oh boy! if/when they do. Reports are that during the first test in 2003 some viewers got motion sickness during scenes depicting the view while driving. This is deemed to be a side effect of the resolution, wide field of view and the in-frame motion.

22.2-channel audio?

9 above ear level, 10 at ear level, 3 below ear level and 2 LFE's

http://www.eetimes.com/news/latest/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=173402762

Dr. Mordrid

KvHagedorn
4th January 2006, 01:28
yes. reality pales to insignificance.

Umfriend
4th January 2006, 02:49
I donnow. Would movies like Le fabuleux destin d'Amelie Poulin or Sexo por compasion really be better at higher resulotions and stuff??

KvHagedorn
4th January 2006, 03:19
I was being ironic there. Sorry if it didn't translate.

gt40
4th January 2006, 05:03
And yet, I've had folks comment how sharp my DLP projector looks at 480p :rolleyes:

Fluff
4th January 2006, 06:45
Enter UHDV AKA: Super Hi-Vision; a format being pushed by NHK, Ikegami Tsushinki, JVC and DALSA (a high-tech imaging h/w company hq'd in Waterloo, Ontario).

UHDV’s major features include 7,680 × 4,320, a refresh rate of 60 fps, 22.2 audio and a 100-degree field of view :eek:

At ~33 megapixels it might take 10 years to get there but oh boy! if/when they do. Reports are that during the first test in 2003 some viewers got motion sickness during scenes depicting the view while driving. This is deemed to be a side effect of the resolution, wide field of view and the in-frame motion.

22.2-channel audio?

9 above ear level, 10 at ear level, 3 below ear level and 2 LFE's

http://www.eetimes.com/news/latest/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=173402762

Dr. Mordrid

Wonder what size of mastering studio this will require, with all those monitor speakers!!

Dr Mordrid
4th January 2006, 13:12
Dunno, but if I have to get seasick to edit video http://digitalvideo.8m.net/emoticon/tongue.gif

Dr. Mordrid

Umfriend
5th January 2006, 09:03
I was being ironic there. Sorry if it didn't translate.It did. I was more reflecting on the hi-tech "goodies" Doc announced. Sorta in line with your sentiment I guess.

Mehen
7th January 2006, 21:08
I think for 99% of the users, you will be hard pressed to find content higher than 1080p. HD/BlueRay will be no more than that, the PS3/360 will be no more than that, most video cards on computers can't do much more than that. I am predicting 1080p will last well into the next decade.
Hell, most people aren't even beyond 480i yet.

VJ
8th January 2006, 07:38
I just saw a demonstration of a 1080 display. Apparently, Philips supplied 30 stores in Belgium with a 1080 demo-box: it has an 80 GB drive which holds <10 minutes of HD footage. The box is connected via RGB to various LCD displays.
The result is AWESOME :eek:.

For the Belgians: The dealer said that Telenet will start to broadcast some stations in 1080 around April. Of course, it will have a higher compression ratio than that demo box. Oh, and if you don't have a cabletuner or digibox, get ready to loose another number of stations (FR2, TMF, JimTV and perhaps others). :(


Jörg

KvHagedorn
10th January 2006, 21:01
We have a hard drive with some flowers and arena football in 1080p that we got from Mitsubishi. We try to play it on the 62" 1080p DLP for everyone who comes in. Everyone is blown away by it.

Mehen
10th January 2006, 21:21
what are the Sony SXRDs like? How do they compare to a similarily spec'd DLP?

mmp121
11th January 2006, 17:38
Alot more $ for a little bit better image quality. If Sony still has its Qualia site up, you can see that SXRD was used for their 70" DLP projection TV and a sweet looking front projector for home theater. I saw the $30K projector in use in a home theater store nearby and was blown away at the image quality. Too bad the projector costs more than the car I drive! I heard that the 70" DLP TV is no longer being sold, and its being "brought" to the consumer. I'm sure they have made changes to the picture engine, because the DLP TV was $10K-$12K, and now the 60" SXRD DLP TV Sony has is only $5K

Sony Global Qualia Site (http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/QUALIA/)

Marshmallowman
11th January 2006, 18:23
How about one of these

http://www.techdigest.tv/2006/01/ces_2006_sony_s.html

4,096 x 2,160 resolution, 10,000 ANSI lumens and 2000:1 contrast ratio

KvHagedorn
12th January 2006, 15:25
That'd be nice for a really BIG home theater.. :)

The price sounds reasonable as such things go.. at least for the SRX-R105 (Which is good for screens up to 25 feet wide), so I can see them making their way into a few high end home theaters..

Pace
8th March 2006, 04:04
Is there any indications of whether we'll be able to buy 1080p 37" LCDs? I'm about to buy, hopefully, a Samsung 32" LCD HDTV - but would buy a cheaper model in the meantime if 1080p is going to be available in a year or two. I've been making do with a 14" portable in my flat until I recently acquired my sister's second hand 20" CRT - so I can hold off for a while.

The idea was a good receiver/speaker/LCD and DVD (SACD/DVD-A too) player setup. Now I'm thinking a really good receiver/speaker setup, and get a BluRay (or other) and 1080p to addon later. BluRay isn't that far away - will it be 1080p?

Jammrock
8th March 2006, 07:33
1080p is already available. Several LCD monitors and TVs are 1080p, and several manufactures have already released 1080p front and rear projectors. I think the Sony SXRD stuff is 1080p on some products...

http://hometheater.about.com/od/productreviewstoppicks/p/lvm37w1lcdtv.htm

http://www.samsung.com/Products/TV/DLPTV/HLR7178WXXAA.asp

http://www.samsung.com/Products/TV/DLPTV/HLR5678WXXAA.asp

http://www.samsung.com/Products/TV/DLPTV/HLR5078WXXAA.asp

http://www.mitsubishi-tv.com/televisions/details.asp?id=196

http://www.audioholics.com/cedia/cedia2004/SonyKDS70XBR100SXRDTV.php

There are a ton of other 1080p monitors/TVs out there, those are just a handful I pulled from a quick online search. Westinghouse is typically considered the best LCD TVs, but you of course pay for it ($2k USD for a 37" 1080p monitor).

Mitsubishi DLPs, especially in the Diamond line, have been getting rave reviews. Their black and white level, and the contrast/color are supposed to be pretty phenominal.

I'm just hoping that by the time I shell out for a good HDTV monitor in 2-3 years that they have cheap 3-chip DLPs out, or something better, for around $3k for a 50'ish" screen.

Also, be very very very very careful on what HDTV you buy. It has been announced that BOTH HD-DVD and Blu-ray will require HDCP on the monitor/TV to get true 1080p resolution. Otherwise the video is scaled down to 480p. In addition, many cable/satellite operators are requiring HDCP for HD content as well. They have so far made no concession, or care at all, about people who already own an HDTV without HDCP, so be positive that HDCP is supported, or you'll be in for a world of headaches later.

That our you'll have to fork out for an illegal HDCP bypass device ...