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    You all remember the movie “Virus”, Richard Carrigan, Jr has seen that movie once to many times and actively advocates caution that Seti might pick up “Space virus’s” that will cause untold damage.

    Someone needs to tell him that we don’t need aliens to make new viruses for us, we’re doing fine on our own.

    Keeping Watch for Interstellar Computer Viruses

    By Leonard David
    Senior Space Writer
    posted: 07:00 am ET
    11 November 2003



    Microsoft may have to fork up big bounty bucks trying to unearth future hackers, particularly when they are light years away on distant worlds.

    Add one more worry to the computerized world of the 21st century. Could a signal from the stars broadcast by an alien intelligence also carry harmful information, in the spirit of a computer virus? Could star folk launch a "disinformation" campaign -- one that covers up aspects of their culture? Perhaps they might even mask the "real" intent of dispatching a message to other civilizations scattered throughout the Cosmos.

    These are concerns that deserve attention explains Richard Carrigan, Jr., a physicist at the Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory in Batavia, Illinois. Those engaged in the Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence (SETI), he contends, should think about decontaminating potential SETI signals.

    The so-called "SETI Hacker" hypothesis, Carrigan argues, is an issue of interstellar discourse that should be taken seriously. We should exercise caution when handling SETI downloads, he said.

    Altruistic, benign, or malevolent?

    Carrigan notes that Earth's early radio ramblings have already traveled some fifty light years away. (A light year is the distance that light travels in a vacuum in one year, equal to 5.88 trillion miles (9.46 trillion kilometers).

    Turns out that on the order of 400 stars are within 50 light years of Earth. Any civilization out at that distance may have immediately responded and sent a signal back to Earth. "Such a signal could be useful or possibly very harmful to us," Carrigan suggested in a recent scientific paper presented at the 54th International Astronautical Congress, held September 29th - October 3 in Bremen, Germany.

    A key question is whether or not a SETI signal might be altruistic, benign, or malevolent. "It would help to understand the motivation of a message before reading too much of it," Carrigan said. Like Odysseus of Greek Mythology, he added, "we may have to stuff wax in the ears of our programmers and strap the chief astronomer to the receiving tower before she is allowed to listen to the song of the siren star."


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  • #2
    Sounds like an extension of the plot of Species....

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    • #3
      This sounds pretty serious actually. If you can hack alien computers with a Mac laptop, who knows what the aliens can do to our computers!
      Last edited by Jon P. Inghram; 25 November 2005, 13:54.

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      • #4
        That's a little far fetched. What if an alien sent us a so-called 'space virus'. How are we even going to know if it even is a 'space virus'? What if our technology just isn't advanced enough to decode it or just plain too different? What if their so-called 'virus' turns out, to us, to be nothing more than static or some undecipherable signal? Or even music or images of alien porn? Do they even know what kind of technology we have? I mean if they receive some primitive radio signal they might not even think we are an adavanced race! IMO, it's not something I'd worry about, not even for a second.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Jon P. Inghram
          This sounds pretty serious actually. If you hack alien computers with a Mac laptop, who knows what the aliens can do to our computers!


          extra points for the vague reference!
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          • #6
            All I will say on this is that there is, logically, a possibility that a space virus could indeed attack our computers.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by schmosef


              extra points for the vague reference!
              Is it sad that I understood it?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Umfriend
                All I will say on this is that there is, logically, a possibility that a space virus could indeed attack our computers.
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                • #9
                  Umf gets points for excellence in PW!
                  P.S. You've been Spanked!

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                  • #10
                    It gets crazier:

                    Former Canadian Minister Of Defence Asks Canadian Parliament Asked To Hold Hearings On Relations With Alien "Et" Civilizations
                    Last edited by schmosef; 26 November 2005, 12:58. Reason: fixed the url
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                    • #11
                      An alien coming to land on Earth would do one of two things;

                      1. head for the brightest sources of light at night or most built areas visible in daylight in order to make contact.

                      2. avoid #1 like the plague so as to avoid/delay contact until they're good and ready, if ever.

                      If #1 is the case then Canada has nothing to worry about

                      If #2 is the case then they'll land in the Yukon or Siberia and never be heard from until they're ready to do #1.

                      In either case Canada having an ET policy is moot.



                      Dr. Mordrid
                      Last edited by Dr Mordrid; 25 November 2005, 20:13.
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                      • #12
                        Also, if they're sufficiently advanced to get here, any diplomatic preparations are useless - we'll have to play their game anyway.

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                        • #13
                          I don't argue the need for ET diplomatic preparations, but first you have to have enough people to make it likely you'll even be noticed

                          Update:

                          Here's the full text re: ex-Canadian Minister of Defence Hellyer wanting ET "rules";



                          Sorry, but IMO anyone who has allied themself with both Pierre Trudeaux and US Congressman Dennis Kucinich (D-Ohio) is probably smoking loco-weed anyhow

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                          Last edited by Dr Mordrid; 25 November 2005, 20:45.
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                          • #14
                            Oh I don't know, I'm sure some scientist have plans "just in case".
                            And personally I would be afraid to left to politicians such preparations...

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                            • #15
                              And scientists aren't political?

                              If you really think that I have this bridge for sale.....

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