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KeiFront
7th September 2005, 12:12
http://www.apple.com/ipodnano/

Looks pretty nice altough a bit to expensive imo.

p.s. it's also available in black :).

Jessterw
7th September 2005, 12:24
Ah you beat me too it. I hear next year they will come out with the iPod thumbtack :p


iTunes 5 (http://www.apple.com/itunes/) is also now available for download (http://www.apple.com/itunes/download/), and don't forget, there's the questionable iTunes Mobile (http://www.apple.com/itunes/mobile/) - sadly only available through Cingular.

Fluff
7th September 2005, 12:25
Is it Flash based? Or hdd?

Gurm
7th September 2005, 12:31
Is it Flash based? Or hdd?

Look at it. It's clearly flash-based.

Nowhere
7th September 2005, 12:40
Gurm, you're satisfied with this one? ;) :p



/me wants it... :(

Wombat
7th September 2005, 13:02
Looks pretty nice altough a bit to expensive imo. Too expensive? Are you nuts? $200 for a 4GB flash music player? Pricewatch doesn't show 4GB CF that cheap.

This is like when people said the mini was too expensive, when it cost less than the hard drive that was in it.

Claymonkey
7th September 2005, 13:22
I'd worry about this thing getting lost or bent/broken easily. I'm still not a fan of ipod/itunes (iriver guy) , but I admit this is a pretty nice little thing

KeiFront
7th September 2005, 13:29
Too expensive? Are you nuts? $200 for a 4GB flash music player? Pricewatch doesn't show 4GB CF that cheap.

This is like when people said the mini was too expensive, when it cost less than the hard drive that was in it.
kuch kuch, the 4Gb versions costs 249$ (or 259€). The 2Gb version cost 200$ (or 209€).

Jessterw
7th September 2005, 13:44
I'd worry about this thing getting lost or bent/broken easily. I'm still not a fan of ipod/itunes (iriver guy) , but I admit this is a pretty nice little thing
How is it any more breakable than the hundreds of other portable players? I have an iPod shuffle and I've had the thing in my back pocket when I sat down before. If it's going to break by sheer force, then there's nothing going to stop that.

Hey, don't you owe me a belated birthday present? :p

Wombat
7th September 2005, 14:22
kuch kuch, the 4Gb versions costs 249$ (or 259€). The 2Gb version cost 200$ (or 209€). Still, I found ONE 4GB CF for $200, and anything with a recognizable brand was $225, $250 and up. Headphones, LI batteries, Color display, and everything else for $250 more and you're complaining?

Fluff
7th September 2005, 14:40
Gurm,

http://www.hitachigst.com/hdd/support/micro/micro3k4.htm which would fit in the space quite happily.

Just thought it could have been one of these. But you are of course right because it says skip free.

Wombat
7th September 2005, 15:09
Gurm,

http://www.hitachigst.com/hdd/support/micro/micro3k4.htm which would fit in the space quite happily. Not too happily. It's 0.20" thick, to the 0.27" total for the Nano (the Mini is 0.50" thick). Also, at 16 grams, it would be more than 1/3 of the Nano's weight.

KeiFront
7th September 2005, 15:12
Still, I found ONE 4GB CF for $200, and anything with a recognizable brand was $225, $250 and up. Headphones, LI batteries, Color display, and everything else for $250 more and you're complaining?
a bit to expensive imo.
A comparable 4gb flash based mp3 player would cost about 200€ overhere, ok it doesn't has a colour screen etc. And other people I talked with also found it a bit to expensive. So I think it's reasonable to complain a bit. FYI 249$ +21% vat is 301$, 259€ = 321.491$.

GT98
7th September 2005, 16:42
Wow that thing is pretty slick...I get one to replace my Ipod if/when it craps out

Jessterw
7th September 2005, 17:04
Related in only a peripheral sense... thank god they ditched the brush metal look in iTunes :D

Ahem.

Nowhere
7th September 2005, 17:28
So how does it look like now in win?

Jessterw
7th September 2005, 18:05
Pretty much that same as it does on a Mac, like it always has. The distracting line on the bottom of the titlebar is now gone, though how the menu items are placed looks a tad odd.

Interestingly, it now displays in Japanese on my copy of Japanese Windows XP, whereas previous versions did not. *shrug*

Claymonkey
7th September 2005, 20:24
How is it any more breakable than the hundreds of other portable players? I have an iPod shuffle and I've had the thing in my back pocket when I sat down before. If it's going to break by sheer force, then there's nothing going to stop that.

Hey, don't you owe me a belated birthday present? :p

I'll get right on that with my belated paychecks ;)

As for bending.. come on.. it's long, wide and thin. If it has the thickness of a pencil and that much surface area it will bend with not much more force than would bend a credit card. They'd be wise to use the same metal they use in their laptops but I know that stuff bends easy at the right spots too.

Jessterw
7th September 2005, 21:57
Sure there will be some bending, but you're not going to break it by doing so unless you are seriously trying to do so. Nevermind that, bending (or flexibility) can be an asset to the durability of a product (this design principle has been put to use in everything from eyeglass frames to buildings that naturally sway and bend in response to wind and earthquakes). Granted, flexibility was likely not a design specification per se, but the unscientific stress tests that various people have been putting these things through appears promising.

I'm betting it's made of better materials than the shuffle, and I couldn't bend it with any force without breaking it (which means I would have to apply a lot).

You could always find an Apple store and give it a try, but just don't tell the sales people you are trying to see if you can break it by bending it any-which-way. :p

Wombat
7th September 2005, 23:07
As for bending.. come on.. it's long, wide and thin. If it has the thickness of a pencil and that much surface area it will bend with not much more force than would bend a credit card. They'd be wise to use the same metal they use in their laptops but I know that stuff bends easy at the right spots too. You might be right, except that this is a hollow structure, and probably has a couple smartly places reinforcements.

KeiFront
8th September 2005, 02:47
Interestingly, it now displays in Japanese on my copy of Japanese Windows XP, whereas previous versions did not. *shrug*
http://discussions.info.apple.com/webx?7@242.DJhJamsBRr7.0@.68b8ba16/11

Claymonkey
8th September 2005, 04:35
I might just try that at an apple store :p ;)

Anyway, I'll hold off judgement till I see it for myself, I'll be fair about it

Chrono_Wanderer
9th September 2005, 07:45
Gurm,

http://www.hitachigst.com/hdd/support/micro/micro3k4.htm which would fit in the space quite happily.

Just thought it could have been one of these. But you are of course right because it says skip free.

Darn. That reminds me about their Bits standing up flash movie earlier this year. :D

Dispite the fact that I've an iPod 20GB (4th gen), I never liked them. iPod nano seems interesting, but I still perfer iRiver. Well, ok, i'd admit it. The size is amazing. This is supposed to be the size of the shuffle right?

Jessterw
9th September 2005, 08:42
The iPod nano is thinner than the shuffle, however it is both taller and wider than the latter. It's more meant as a replacement for the mini.

agallag
12th September 2005, 09:58
I played with one briefly in the Chicago Apple store (I'm here on business for the weekend). It's really slick, and very very small. Just a hair bigger than the shuffle in both length and width, and about half the thickness.

I still don't want one though. I want an MP3 player that doesn't need me to install any software at all. I just want it to be a USB mass storage device. That's all. Any recommendations for something like that? The most likely contender right now is the PNY Vibe 1GB, but even that isn't perfect.

lecter
12th September 2005, 10:24
One thing I'm not clear about: can iPods be used as regular mass storage devices? I heard that if you plug one into your (Windows) computer and just drag files, it will work...the only catch seems to be for mp3s, which can be transferred only thru iTunes if you actually want to play them.

Jessterw
12th September 2005, 11:06
That's pretty much how it works lecter. There have been a few workarounds for that, but I've never paid them much attention as I do use iTunes for such transfers.

I routinely use my iPod shuffle as a USB storage device.

KeiFront
12th September 2005, 13:43
No problem Lecter I use my ipod as a portable storage device.

KeiFront
12th September 2005, 14:20
Review of the iPod nano in top gear style :) (see page3) http://arstechnica.com/reviews/hardware/nano.ars/1

Chrono_Wanderer
12th September 2005, 20:25
OMFG@KeiFront

Johnny Ray
12th September 2005, 21:06
I'd worry about this thing getting lost or bent/broken easily. I'm still not a fan of ipod/itunes (iriver guy) , but I admit this is a pretty nice little thing Enjoy the Arstechnica "stress test:"


To simulate everyday accidents that could result in a broken iPod, we came up with a few situations that we felt would ultimately leave the nano lifeless:


Sitting on the iPod nano
Dropping it while jogging (4-6mph),
Dropping at various speeds: 8-10mph (slow bicycle), 15-20mph (fast bicycle), 30mph (slow car), and 50mph (fast car)
Dropping the nano from various heights.
http://arstechnica.com/reviews/hardware/nano.ars/3

Pretty impressive results, if you ask me. :)