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  • WinAmp...it really whips the Llama's ass!

    5.09 is out:

    Embrace your inner fan, subscribe to your favorite artists to get Winamp-exclusive content.


    Changelog:

    Changelog:
    * New: By popular demand all "hTtP force to 'Now Playing'" support has been removed
    * New: Deletes in the Media Library now move files to the Recycle Bin
    * New: WMA Playback now works with WaveOut plugin
    * New: NSV Subtitles can be disabled on the fly
    * Fixed: Authentication for OGG/Vorbis streams
    * Fixed: Drag and Drop strange behavior in open file dialogs
    * Fixed: Stuttering WMA On Start and Seek
    * Fixed: NSV Video stall during buffering
    * Fixed: Autosize of video to be accurate to the Video size not snap size
    * Fixed: Short NSV Clips audio cutout
    * Update: CD Ripping Library
    * Update: Online Media tree is now dynamic (More free videos on the way!)
    * Update: Sonic Install / Config flag mismatch

    What files are updated in the 5.09 build:
    out_ds now v2.2.12 (was 2.2.11)
    out_wave now v2.03 (was 2.02a)
    in_wm now v2.06 (was 2.04)
    in_vorbis now 1.40 (was 1.35)
    in_mp3 now v3.09 (was 3.08)
    in_cdda now v3.05 (was 3.03)
    in_nsv now v1.05 (was 1.04)

    Haven't found a non-eMusic bundled package yet.

    Jammrock
    “Inside every sane person there’s a madman struggling to get out”
    –The Light Fantastic, Terry Pratchett

  • #2
    Somewhere in the Wimamp forums they said the bundle free version will be available again with 5.10. You can just uncheck the eMusic thing during install with the bundled version.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Jon P. Inghram
      Somewhere in the Wimamp forums they said the bundle free version will be available again with 5.10. You can just uncheck the eMusic thing during install with the bundled version.
      And that I did. And that I do. Winamp rules!
      “Inside every sane person there’s a madman struggling to get out”
      –The Light Fantastic, Terry Pratchett

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      • #4
        either download the Pro version, or download the "lite" version.
        "And yet, after spending 20+ years trying to evolve the user interface into something better, what's the most powerful improvement Apple was able to make? They finally put a god damned shell back in." -jwz

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        • #5
          Have you seen amaroK (KDE default player)?

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          • #6
            Blah, all the same old concepts ...seriously, Muine OTOH is very interesting.

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            • #7
              What does it do, nowhere?

              AZ
              There's an Opera in my macbook.

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              • #8
                It's easier to say what it dosn't do: it doesn't implement features just because "everyone has them".

                edit: this is the original text that got me intrigued about Muine...sums it all rather nicely
                Getting nothing wrong is for the uninspired

                After several weeks of use, I believe that Muine is a fabulous, brilliant user interface. The search-based queueing/playing is perfect, and the single-playlist model is surprisingly ergonomic. And it is all the more interesting for how different it is from the mainstream music tools like winamp, WMP and iTunes.

                But I think any traditional use case analysis would probably be devastating to the egos of the Muine developers, because there's all sorts of things it gets "wrong."

                You see, included in your use case analysis for a music application would be: browsing by genre, organizing by album, managing multiple play lists, burning CDs and managing remote streams.

                Why would those things be there? Because every other music app has those features, and if you're building a music tool, you've got to have them too. Only, somehow, you've got to do them better than everyone else. How could you possibly put out a music player without the ability to burn CDs from a playlist? Or without a five-star rating system like Windows Media Player? Are you paying any attention to what's going on?

                (Incidentally I think five-star rating systems for songs are useless. WMP ostensibly uses them to create a "favorites" list, and presumably to do collaborative filtering later on. But a simple favorites list would be work on its own, and collaborative filtering could be done better on profile data. And how the hell do you rate a song on a scale from 1 to 5? I'd love to hear from you if you find five-star rating systems genuinely useful.)

                This is how applications in established categories end up in incremental feature battles against each other. No one is free to break the mold, and so they just add feature after feature onto the pile. There are many examples of this: office suites, ICE collaboration tools, etc.

                To me this is emblematic of the distinction between getting it right and getting nothing wrong.

                The get nothing wrong way of life is evident in highly mature situations and established markets — and probably also in resource-scarce environments like a submarine — where not losing ground can seem more important than gaining ground. People are afraid to make mistakes -- to leave something out, or to put something in that shouldn't be there -- and so they consult detailed process guidelines, check every decision with their peers, and generally

                Which means that they get nothing wrong: they don't introduce a bug, and so they won't be fired. But you'd never want to go to a party planned by someone like that. Sure, there are enough cups for everyone, but that's just about the only thing you can say.

                New solutions to old problems are easy to ridicule because they always have major flaws. It would be a trivial matter for us (or anyone; this is not GNOME-specific) to laugh Muine out of the building. But we'd be failing to acknowledge the fundamental genius of the design, which anyone can see is there.

                I think this applies to the current GNOME revision control situation. Everyone knows we have to move off CVS. And yet it's going to be hard: we have seven years of revision history in that system, seven years of integration with other tools like email notification, mirror scripts, tinderbox, client scripts, and so on.

                But whatever new revision system we switch to (subversion) is probably going to cause problems for us simply because unseating a seven-year incumbent technology is not easy.

                In order to get the fundamental things right, we're going to have to get some things wrong.

                Eventually, people will recognize the beauty of the Muine approach, and we will either realize we didn't need those traditional media player features, or we will find new ways to deliver them to the user: perhaps even new interaction models that are just as clever as Muine itself.

                Also, does anyone ever browse their own music by genre? Or do the music players just put that option in there because id3 contains a Genre tag? And what the heck is porn groove?
                Last edited by Nowhere; 6 May 2005, 15:27.

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