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Elie
29th March 2005, 14:22
ok I have an Asus motherboard with a PIII 800 and 512 MB ram sitting on a shelf collecting dust and thought to myself, I have all these Awesonme DOS based games that I can play again and something the kids can enjoy later on. The games are...

-Wing commander III and IV (IV has a patch for Windows 95, doesn't work correctly in Windows XP)

-I have all three Tex Murphy games

-Privateer

-Barried in time, 1 and 2

-I may install Win95 and boot to dos to play these old games, but in terms of sound and video is there anything I should consider? It's probably very difficult to find a SB Pro sound card LOL or something.

Any ideas?

Thanks,
Elie

Wombat
29th March 2005, 14:37
Stuff like dosbox and vdmsound should help you run these games on NT kernels

Kruzin
29th March 2005, 14:53
I would expect you should be able to find a trusty old SB16 fairly easily. They put out gazillions of those things.
I know at the local shops around here that sell used parts, they have bins of them for $5 each.

xortam
29th March 2005, 15:01
Gawd ... anything but Win95! ... and don't dis' the HW. I still use W2KAS on a similar system (Piii/850 with 512 MB) and it's been just fine for many years. I use a Max in dual-monitor configuration on this box. Can't say I ever tried a DOS game on it (except maybe Rogue [ASCI char based with simple PC speaker audio]). I would think any cheap audio card that emulates SB16 cards would be just fine for your use.

P.S. Now see Kruzin's post ... yep, just need SB16 capability I'd think ... lots of companies produce(d) such cards.

az
29th March 2005, 16:59
Go for the original SB Pro, 16, or maybe AWE32.

A few more games: Privateer 2: The Darkening. Very different from Privateer, still a great game.
X-Com: UFO Defense and X-Com: Terror From The Deep. Get both for free at the-underdogs.org :)

AZ

High_Jumbllama
29th March 2005, 17:03
Maybe use XOSL (http://www.ranish.com/part/xosl.htm) for booting into Freedos (http://www.freedos.org/) and 95? You could then boot into any number of necessary configurations for the various games.

xortam
29th March 2005, 17:39
Go for the original SB Pro, 16, or maybe AWE32. ...Why?

az
29th March 2005, 22:44
Because other cards are only SB pro compatible (8 bit stereo IIRC), and might not be as 100% compatible as you'd think. I think SB16 or AWE32 (depending on how old the games are) are the way to go.

AZ

VJ
29th March 2005, 23:54
I agree with Xortam: don't dis the hardware (I'm running XP on a PII-450 with 384 MB, and it runs pretty good).

Programs like dosbox allow you to have full support for dos games, including sound. Still, there are a few games that don't run properly (i.e. tetripz). Despite this I would actually be tempted to put a XP or 2000 on it, install dosbox, and you are good to go... (much less hassle regarding base memory optimization and drivers). Also, it would make the computer useful for other stuff as well (kid's homework? :D).

Or if you want to experiment with linux: dosbox runs on linux as well....

If you do opt for a dos based system, do consider DR DOS (provides better ways of making as much base memory available as possible).


Jörg

Gurm
30th March 2005, 05:31
Install WinXP Lite (or strip it down yourself), then run DOSBox and VDMSound to run the older games.

Elie
30th March 2005, 06:45
I don't have WinXP Lite but will go with the DOSBox and VDMSound recommendations :)

Thanks alot guys!!!!

Cheers,
Elie

agallag
30th March 2005, 06:52
Cool, I'm gonna play some Flight Unlimited tonight! :D

xortam
30th March 2005, 09:41
Because other cards are only SB pro compatible (8 bit stereo IIRC), and might not be as 100% compatible as you'd think. I think SB16 or AWE32 (depending on how old the games are) are the way to go.

AZWell I did say SB16 compatible and there have been such cards that were produced by other than Creative. I have a Diamond MX300 in my P!!! box which is reported to be fully SB16 compatible, plus a whole lot more. Too bad Creative killed Aureal. :(

ZokesPro
30th March 2005, 11:19
I'm surprised that no one mentioned that in DOS it only recognizes 64mb of RAM, not that it really matters with a P3 800MHz.

High_Jumbllama
30th March 2005, 13:10
I agree with Xortam: don't dis the hardware (I'm running XP on a PII-450 with 384 MB, and it runs pretty good).

Programs like dosbox allow you to have full support for dos games, including sound. Still, there are a few games that don't run properly (i.e. tetripz). Despite this I would actually be tempted to put a XP or 2000 on it, install dosbox, and you are good to go... (much less hassle regarding base memory optimization and drivers). Also, it would make the computer useful for other stuff as well (kid's homework? :D).

Or if you want to experiment with linux: dosbox runs on linux as well....

If you do opt for a dos based system, do consider DR DOS (provides better ways of making as much base memory available as possible).


Jörg

Newer hard drives and ram make all the difference. It did for my late Athlon 600 with W2k.

Kurt
31st March 2005, 02:35
beh...we're running mainly P-II 400 here in the office. W2K, 256megs and a 7200rpm 40gigger. MS Office has never complained... ;)