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Helevitia
15th February 2005, 10:47
This seems impressive to me. I'll wait for the reviews of course but the one review looks good so far. I wish I had money :(

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1558,1764459,00.asp

GT98
15th February 2005, 11:24
Nice Monitor...give it a year or two and you can get it for $500 bucks like you can get the 2001FP now! :)

Umfriend
15th February 2005, 11:57
OMFG, that looks like the screen I'm gonna buy (in a years time perhaps)

xortam
15th February 2005, 12:58
They might have finally come up with a monitor to compete with my HP L2335. Careful about the missing HDCP capability as that will bite you soon on HD content. Also, buy you're non-broadcast flag HD tuner cards before July 5 2005 because the Feds are going to insist on that support after that date.

cjolley
16th February 2005, 06:46
Originally posted by xortam
... Also, buy you're non-broadcast flag HD tuner cards before July 5 2005 because the Feds are going to insist on that support after that date.

Wazzat?
chuck

Paddy
16th February 2005, 07:25
Sounds good! Shame I can't find one here! :(

xortam
16th February 2005, 10:04
Originally posted by cjolley
Wazzat?
chuck Copy protection. The Feds are cracking down on all the CES equipment manufacturers to enforce the BF. Right now it's “Don’t ask, don’t tell” on many hobbyist pieces (like my MyHD tuner card).

Taz
17th February 2005, 14:49
The big question is who really makes it ;)

UtwigMU
17th February 2005, 15:04
BenQ.

Helevitia
17th February 2005, 15:22
Originally posted by UtwigMU
BenQ.

Is that a good thing or a bad thing? I don't knwo anything about BenQ.

Marshmallowman
17th February 2005, 17:57
BenQ is the periphal branch of Acer

Taz
19th February 2005, 13:43
Spec wise it's very close to this model, although this one is 23" rather than 24" :confused:

Link (http://global.benq.com/wm/front/benqmain.asp?MenuHead=131&ShowType=program&FileURL=product.asp&dataid=11806&GenMenu=&RootId=undefined)

rylan
19th February 2005, 15:13
Originally posted by Helevitia
Is that a good thing or a bad thing? I don't knwo anything about BenQ.

Bad thing... but who knows maybe they did a good job this time.

borat
20th February 2005, 09:25
Dell make really nice screens so im hoping they hav'nt compromised on the quality here just to bring out a new price point in mega sized LCD's.
Fromthe specs it looks great, i guess we will only find out when it hits the shelves.

GNEP
20th February 2005, 09:31
Well if the 2001FP is anything to go by, it should be a really nice panel :)

Wombat
2nd March 2005, 13:21
You can get this 24" monitor for $1004 dollars, ending tonight

http://www.spoofee.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16539

mmp121
2nd March 2005, 14:33
Deals dead already. No automatic 10% off. I was on the site earlier and saw the 2405FPW with the automatic 10% off. I am gonna wait for a really good sale on this monitor and jump on it. I just need to think of a REALLY good reason / excuse to feed the wife. :bandit:

Evildead666
3rd March 2005, 10:33
Well i'm gonna resist, and wait for some more players in the ~24" widescreen market...and for a new pc to go with it. just got this one!!!

My Iiyama is a bit small tho...but would need a new graphics card for the 2405FPW...my 6800GT doesn't fare too well at 1920x1200...15-16fps in 3dm05. havent tried any games yet, cos i cant find the CD's...

Evildead666
3rd March 2005, 12:32
Just tried HL2, and it ran just fine with the 6800GT and 4xAA+8xAF @ 1920x1200.
averages in the 40-50fps range, with a few spikes, and a couple of hiccups too, but nothing major...

Works tho...

currently running the 6800 at 400/850 due to a memory problem. namely a plastic washer that got stuck between the HS and the memory chips, which affected 2 pairs of chips not completely covered by the HS. So its higher core, lower memory than stock...

mmp121
5th March 2005, 16:20
Does anyone know if one would need a "special" video card to be able to drive a 1920x1200 screen? Would a ~4 year old ATI AIW 9700Pro be able to handle this 24 inch WS LCD? I would hate to get this LCD and then find out I need to spend more $ to get a video card that can run (2D) at this resolution. I know the 9700Pro won't be running any modern at 1920x1200. But I primarily use my PC for 2D. Thanks.

Helevitia
5th March 2005, 20:15
Does anyone know if one would need a "special" video card to be able to drive a 1920x1200 screen? Would a ~4 year old ATI AIW 9700Pro be able to handle this 24 inch WS LCD? I would hate to get this LCD and then find out I need to spend more $ to get a video card that can run (2D) at this resolution. I know the 9700Pro won't be running any modern at 1920x1200. But I primarily use my PC for 2D. Thanks.


Yes a 9700 Pro (which is not quite 3 years old) can handle 1920x1200. The newest drivers support AFAIK. Go post this question on rage3d.com. You will get a definitive answer within minutes usually.

KvHagedorn
5th March 2005, 20:55
I think I can do 1920x1200 on my G400MAX, at 32bit 2D.

I can do it in 3D with perfect playability in UT2004 on my X800XT. ;)

SitFlyer
5th March 2005, 21:38
......I can do it in 3D with perfect playability in UT2004 on my X800XT. ;)
You actually play that somewhere. Haven't seen you on the MURC server, in like forever. :p

......not even in in the logs :p

KvHagedorn
5th March 2005, 21:50
You actually play that somewhere. Haven't seen you on the MURC server, in like forever. :p

......not even in in the logs :p

well.. the hours I get on I see no one else there except your superbots, which are no fun to play against. I also play Severance and Primeval almost exclusively. :)

mmp121
7th March 2005, 10:24
Yes a 9700 Pro (which is not quite 3 years old) can handle 1920x1200. The newest drivers support AFAIK. Go post this question on rage3d.com. You will get a definitive answer within minutes usually.

I decided to check for myself and found what I wanted on the ATI site. I guess next time I'll do a little checking for myself first before I go running off posting simplistic questions.


http://www.ati.com/products/radeon9700/radeon9700pro/specs.html

Fluff
8th March 2005, 07:25
Should be able to haggle them down to £580 + Vat

What is annoying is the lack of HDCP. Do you guys think that on a PC it will actually be needed for playing back HD?

xortam
8th March 2005, 08:11
... What is annoying is the lack of HDCP. Do you guys think that on a PC it will actually be needed for playing back HD?Yes, for any equipment bought after July 5, 2005 (new Fed rules).

Fluff
8th March 2005, 09:00
Which means probably Mr Blair will follow a few months later :(.

Helevitia
8th March 2005, 21:02
EDIT: If you want the full scoop you will need to read the info in the links provided. If you want to just order the monitor, follow the instructions in the quote below.

OMG!!! You can get this monitor for $860!!!

Here is some info:



I just got a call back from Rao at Dell (4:45pm PST) after leaving him a message (3:00pm PST). He placed my order totaling $860 with FREE 2nd Day shipping and said it will be 7 to 8 days (possibly sooner) before it ships.

Call this number and use the provided extensions to speak with Rao (or leave him a message). He's the one that will process your payment--Brad couldn't do that for some reason. I think the deal ends today.
(800) 456 3355 ext. #7240141
Rao: ext. 6825

My order number: 262524210

ALSO: For those of you that don't already know this, you can split the $860 between two or even three different credit cards.

Here are some threads on it.

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.aspx?catid=40&threadid=1534501&frmKeyword=&STARTPAGE=1&FTVAR_FORUMVIEWTMP=Linear
http://www.fatwallet.com/t/24/444381/

This is insane. I might have to go into debt to buy this.

xortam
8th March 2005, 21:22
Hmmm ... dual 23" and 24" WS DVI LCDs. :rolleyes:

Wonder what the wife will say (sitting next to me). :ermm:

If a deal looks to good to be true, then ...

Helevitia
8th March 2005, 21:46
Hmmm ... dual 23" and 24" WS DVI LCDs. :rolleyes:

Wonder what the wife will say (sitting next to me). :ermm:

If a deal looks to good to be true, then ...

Except that it IS true as many people have already ordered the monitor for $860. People thought the deal would be done by now but if you talk to the right rep at Dell, they will still hook you up.

xortam
8th March 2005, 22:04
Gotta head off to bed now, but ... How long is this deal good for? I don't have the room in the HT for another monitor but I could put it in my office for the old desktop machine; the 'ol 17" NEC 5FG is finally starting to show its age.

Helevitia
8th March 2005, 22:22
Gotta head off to bed now, but ... How long is this deal good for? I don't have the room in the HT for another monitor but I could put it in my office for the old desktop machine; the 'ol 17" NEC 5FG is finally starting to show its age.


That's the problem, the deal was supposed to end a few days back but some reps continue to honor the deal, so you need to call the number posted above and hope it still works.

xortam
9th March 2005, 10:40
My Dad's interested in one of these now. He's a Mac user. Do you know if there's any compatibility problems with a Mac. I'm not sure what video cards he has in his machines (including iBook laptop) and he's about to buy yet another G4.

I'll look into this more later. Hope the deal's still available.

xortam
9th March 2005, 14:55
Dell product pages (good place to start):
http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/ProductDetail.aspx?sku=320-4221&c=us&l=en&cs=19&category_id=6198&first=true&page=productlisting.aspx
http://www1.us.dell.com/content/topics/topic.aspx/global/products/monitors/topics/en/monitor_feature?c=us&cs=RC956904&l=en&s=hied


Here's the AVS thread (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?threadid=509368) on this monitor, including user feedback. There are many useful links in that thread.

ExtremeTech review (http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1558,1764458,00.asp)

Reportedly a Samsung display: (http://www.samsung.com/Products/TFTLCD/Monitors_n_Industrial/LTM240W1/LTM240W1.htm)

http://www.geocities.com/miike232001/124.jpg

Video card compatibility (http://www1.us.dell.com/content/learnmore/learnmore.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=gen&~id=monitors&~line=desktops&~lt=popup&~series=optix&~tab=other)

User Guide (http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/monitors/2405fpw/English/about.htm#Front%20View)

User's attempt at judging black level quality:
http://home.nyc.rr.com/kilmar/pics2/flash.jpg
http://home.nyc.rr.com/kilmar/pics2/unflash.jpg

xortam
9th March 2005, 16:05
Someone on AVS said EPP (Employee Purchase Plan) folks and Dell partners are getting this monitor for somewhere under $800.

Here's some good detailed user feedback on the display. (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?postid=5301769#post5301769)

A Mac user has a site showing many pics (http://offsite.willo.net/2405/2405.html), including the unopened shipping box (some people are very concerned on how things are shipped).

borat
11th March 2005, 03:57
anyone know if a parhelia can drive one of these through DVI?

PAugustin
11th March 2005, 05:43
no problem for a Parhelia, even P650 and P750 would do very well.
The only "consumer" monitor that cannot be driven by a Parhelia is the Apple 30" AFAIK

Paddy
11th March 2005, 10:26
Anyone in the UK found a good deal on this? I am afer a LCD WS monitor :)

mdhome
11th March 2005, 11:45
Anyone in the UK found a good deal on this? I am afer a LCD WS monitor :)
Hi Paddy,
You could try ebay. Some of the US sellers with this product will ship to the UK. If you include delivery, it should be approx £600.


MD

xortam
11th March 2005, 11:47
This is a Dell product (apparently made in China).

Wombat
11th March 2005, 11:51
The 2005FPW, the 20" widescreen, is currently on sale for $500 in the States.

Paddy
11th March 2005, 11:58
The 24'' is £860 here (http://accessories.euro.dell.com/sna/ProductDetail.aspx?sku=30906&c=uk&l=en&cs=ukdhs1&category_id=6198&first=true&page=productlisting.aspx) and the 20" is £540 here (http://accessories.euro.dell.com/sna/ProductDetail.aspx?sku=29082&c=uk&l=en&cs=ukdhs1&category_id=6198&first=true&page=productlisting.aspx)

xortam
21st March 2005, 15:22
I haven't followed up on this since I posted all the info. Is this deal still being offered? I'll have to check the links when I get a chance. I didn't feel the need to jump on the purchase since it appeared that the price might have continued to drop in the short term.

I'm now thinking of setting up another HTPC with a HD tuner for the wife and this monitor would be used on that system. I already wanted to get a second HD tuner as a backup to mine since the Feds will soon be cracking down on the copy protection circuitry. I’ve got my HTPC tied up a lot of times with dubbing/editing work so it takes away from the wife being able to watch her shows. I also wanted a second tuner for networking record/playback of HD. The time seems ripe to go after this monitor now.

Wombat
21st March 2005, 15:57
http://forums.murc.ws/showpost.php?p=529515&postcount=13

borat
22nd March 2005, 05:06
Anyone in the UK found a good deal on this? I am afer a LCD WS monitor :)

If i had the money for one of these i would definately go through ebay, bought 3 2001FP's from the states in the last 2 years through ebay and saved some big money on them, have never had any problems whatsoever with the service of the ebayers or the monitors themselves, though i guess there is no guarantee to be had on that.

mdhome
31st March 2005, 04:13
I paid £640 inc P&P off ebay. Arrived within 2 days :-)

borat
31st March 2005, 09:25
that hurts, i paid 535 for my 2001FP's not much more than a year ago now. Right now the amount of cash needed for one of these is a dream. Are you happy with it? Any things that could be improved upon?

mdhome
1st April 2005, 07:34
So far so good. I am still using analog output but the image is still very sharp though not as vibrant as the tft on my sony laptop (Maybe I just need to tweek). For some reason, even at a res of 1920*1200, the pixels seem larger than I was expecting!!. I was expecting microscopic fonts and icons with lots of flickering. It also helps that I have just bought some new glasses so I have a double visual whammy. What Joy!

Counterstrike Source looks good when played at 24ins widescreen. Its a shame i'm so bad at playing the game :-)