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    Hey doc or anyone that has news on this MOBO, is it any good for a new P4 NLE system, also i believe ASUS [my fav mobo comp] have their version of the board "P4T", any feedback ?
    Asus P2B @ 100Mhz
    PIII 800 / 133Mhz running @100MHZ = 600MHZ!!! VIA Asus Slotkey
    SimpleTECH 128MB X 3/ 100Mhz
    IBM 9.GB Ultrawide Scsi LVD
    IBM 18gb secondary drive @ 7200
    Maxtor 37GB storage drive @ 5400
    Marvel G200 TV
    Microtek E6 scanner via scsi card {adaptec 1502}
    HP CD12ri CDRW 12X10X32 BurnProof!
    Creative Infra48 CD ROM
    Creative AWE64 Gold [ISA]
    Realtek Chip NIC 10/100
    21' Samsung Syncmaster 1000p
    Firewire card
    Mini USB hub
    8 port Compex 10/100 hub
    Sandisk Reader - USB
    Cordless Logitec Mouse
    Iomega Zip100 [the old ugly one!]
    HP 1220 C - A3 printer

  • #2
    I feel the upgrade to P4 should wait a while for several reasons;

    1. CPU cost. Intel is predicting <$1000 P4 systems later this year. Now you'll pay about $850 for just the 1.4ghz CPU. Read here;

    http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/3/17189.html

    2. RIMM cost. RIMM is still too expensive and P4 boards can use nothing but.

    3. Performance. The advanatges of the P4 have yet to be seen. In short until P4 optimized products appear you'll be suffering from "early adopter-itis". Bragging rights but no real advantages. In fact the P4 acutuall works SLOWER with many current products.

    4. By the time all the other factors align the current crop of P4 mainboards will be outdated and may be incapable of using 2ghz models when they appear.

    I'd wait 'til later this summer when the stars align, prices drop and the software appears.

    Dr. Mordrid



    [This message has been edited by Dr Mordrid (edited 01 March 2001).]

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    • #3
      thanx doc for the SOUND advice ! i guess you convinced me off the P4 once again ! Now i am stuck with the decision over which P3 MOBO, i would prefer an ASUS as usual, but i can't get the P3b where i live, i really don't want the VIA chipset [ASUS] what do u recommend, the other option, is obviously the CuSL2[c]...

      one more do u recommed the PIII 800 or u think there's merit in a PIII 1Ghz ?

      the RAM will be 512 or 1Gig.

      thnx Doc.

      dizzynoodle
      Asus P2B @ 100Mhz
      PIII 800 / 133Mhz running @100MHZ = 600MHZ!!! VIA Asus Slotkey
      SimpleTECH 128MB X 3/ 100Mhz
      IBM 9.GB Ultrawide Scsi LVD
      IBM 18gb secondary drive @ 7200
      Maxtor 37GB storage drive @ 5400
      Marvel G200 TV
      Microtek E6 scanner via scsi card {adaptec 1502}
      HP CD12ri CDRW 12X10X32 BurnProof!
      Creative Infra48 CD ROM
      Creative AWE64 Gold [ISA]
      Realtek Chip NIC 10/100
      21' Samsung Syncmaster 1000p
      Firewire card
      Mini USB hub
      8 port Compex 10/100 hub
      Sandisk Reader - USB
      Cordless Logitec Mouse
      Iomega Zip100 [the old ugly one!]
      HP 1220 C - A3 printer

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      • #4
        I think you should consider buying an Athlon system because Athlon are cheaper and faster than PIII.
        If you buy PIII, be aware that i815 chipset are limited to 512Mb RAM. VIA chipsets (for PIII or Athlon) doesn't have this limit (I think their limit is 1.5Gb RAM).


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        • #5
          thnax for your response. I have never assembled an ATHALON machine noe tought of using one, do u recommend... even in terms of stability ? If so, which Processor [speed...etc] and MOBO [brand]do you recommend ? Thanx.
          Asus P2B @ 100Mhz
          PIII 800 / 133Mhz running @100MHZ = 600MHZ!!! VIA Asus Slotkey
          SimpleTECH 128MB X 3/ 100Mhz
          IBM 9.GB Ultrawide Scsi LVD
          IBM 18gb secondary drive @ 7200
          Maxtor 37GB storage drive @ 5400
          Marvel G200 TV
          Microtek E6 scanner via scsi card {adaptec 1502}
          HP CD12ri CDRW 12X10X32 BurnProof!
          Creative Infra48 CD ROM
          Creative AWE64 Gold [ISA]
          Realtek Chip NIC 10/100
          21' Samsung Syncmaster 1000p
          Firewire card
          Mini USB hub
          8 port Compex 10/100 hub
          Sandisk Reader - USB
          Cordless Logitec Mouse
          Iomega Zip100 [the old ugly one!]
          HP 1220 C - A3 printer

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          • #6
            thanx for your response. I have never assembled an ATHALON machine noe tought of using one, do u recommend... even in terms of stability ? If so, which Processor [speed...etc] and MOBO [brand]do you recommend ? Thanx.
            Asus P2B @ 100Mhz
            PIII 800 / 133Mhz running @100MHZ = 600MHZ!!! VIA Asus Slotkey
            SimpleTECH 128MB X 3/ 100Mhz
            IBM 9.GB Ultrawide Scsi LVD
            IBM 18gb secondary drive @ 7200
            Maxtor 37GB storage drive @ 5400
            Marvel G200 TV
            Microtek E6 scanner via scsi card {adaptec 1502}
            HP CD12ri CDRW 12X10X32 BurnProof!
            Creative Infra48 CD ROM
            Creative AWE64 Gold [ISA]
            Realtek Chip NIC 10/100
            21' Samsung Syncmaster 1000p
            Firewire card
            Mini USB hub
            8 port Compex 10/100 hub
            Sandisk Reader - USB
            Cordless Logitec Mouse
            Iomega Zip100 [the old ugly one!]
            HP 1220 C - A3 printer

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            • #7
              i have an athalon and it's always been nice and stable for me (even after one of my heatsink fans died). for a list of the cpeapest places to get cpus (both brands) try http://www.sharkyextreme.com/hardware/weekly_cpu/

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              • #8
                OK i have done abit of homwork... Guys pls let me know if you agree with the setup;

                *T-Bird 1.2GHZ
                *Asus A7v MOBO
                *1G RAM PC133 [i am assuming it is the same ram as on an intel system - right?]
                *Marvel G400
                *2X 60GB Maxtor DiamondMAX [video] + 30GB sys disk

                your feedback is appreciated on this one,

                thanx
                Asus P2B @ 100Mhz
                PIII 800 / 133Mhz running @100MHZ = 600MHZ!!! VIA Asus Slotkey
                SimpleTECH 128MB X 3/ 100Mhz
                IBM 9.GB Ultrawide Scsi LVD
                IBM 18gb secondary drive @ 7200
                Maxtor 37GB storage drive @ 5400
                Marvel G200 TV
                Microtek E6 scanner via scsi card {adaptec 1502}
                HP CD12ri CDRW 12X10X32 BurnProof!
                Creative Infra48 CD ROM
                Creative AWE64 Gold [ISA]
                Realtek Chip NIC 10/100
                21' Samsung Syncmaster 1000p
                Firewire card
                Mini USB hub
                8 port Compex 10/100 hub
                Sandisk Reader - USB
                Cordless Logitec Mouse
                Iomega Zip100 [the old ugly one!]
                HP 1220 C - A3 printer

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                • #9
                  You have to be careful with Via northbridge chipset motherboards. Lots of "thruput" problems getting smooth DV export and output to tape -- check various MSP, Premiere, and Vegas Video forums if you don't believe me.

                  I've an 700MHz Athelon that I've been testing for the past month or so and so far so good. Its an ASUS K7M with AMD 750 northbridge and Via "superIO". It performed admirably with ADS Pyro, G450, using Premiere6 and MSP6.

                  Only glitch is capture with Hauppauge WinTV card -- certain resolutions with certain recompression codecs in AVI_IO produce garbage AVI files (colored snow) despite showing no dropped frames and looking fine in preview. I've not had a chance to verify that these combinations work on my PIII-500 BX chipset system, although I pretty sure they did.

                  Problem is K7M is slotA and won't go beyond 800MHz as far as I can tell.

                  I believe Doc has said you need Via KT133a northbridge and 684b soutbridge without Highpoint IDE controller chip to have a good AMD system for NLE. This would match other reports I've been seeing, although I've not had the chance to try such a system myself.

                  --wally.

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                  • #10
                    I'd not buy and Athlon system based on anything but an AMD chipset. VIA is an obviously flawed piece of silicon or it wouldn't require all those 4-in-1 updates.

                    Dr. Mordrid

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                    • #11
                      DOC, u gpt me a bit confused ! So which MOBO do u recommend for an ATHALON 1.2GHZ system ?
                      Asus P2B @ 100Mhz
                      PIII 800 / 133Mhz running @100MHZ = 600MHZ!!! VIA Asus Slotkey
                      SimpleTECH 128MB X 3/ 100Mhz
                      IBM 9.GB Ultrawide Scsi LVD
                      IBM 18gb secondary drive @ 7200
                      Maxtor 37GB storage drive @ 5400
                      Marvel G200 TV
                      Microtek E6 scanner via scsi card {adaptec 1502}
                      HP CD12ri CDRW 12X10X32 BurnProof!
                      Creative Infra48 CD ROM
                      Creative AWE64 Gold [ISA]
                      Realtek Chip NIC 10/100
                      21' Samsung Syncmaster 1000p
                      Firewire card
                      Mini USB hub
                      8 port Compex 10/100 hub
                      Sandisk Reader - USB
                      Cordless Logitec Mouse
                      Iomega Zip100 [the old ugly one!]
                      HP 1220 C - A3 printer

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                      • #12
                        For an Athlon (T-Bird) you'd probably be best going for a KT133 or KT133A chipset!

                        However, you might be better asking for some help in General Hardware as well, and see if the system the general techies matches these video guys

                        And I'd also go for a pair of IBMs

                        Regards,

                        Paul.
                        Meet Jasmine.
                        flickr.com/photos/pace3000

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                        • #13
                          Doc Mordrid!

                          While everythimg can (and will be) said about the quality about VIA chipset MOBO's consider this:

                          On win95/A/B/c when using LX --> chipsets there is a NEED for Intels equivelent to VIA4IN1 ( Intel Chipset Software Installation Utility) othervise it doesent work at full capacity.

                          Win98also needs "Intel(R) Chipset Software Installation Utility" for any Intel chipset above BX to get working.

                          AND even W2K needs the above mentioned patch to work with I815 and up!!

                          There is NO way to make NEW hardware that is recognised corectly by OLD OS code!!

                          Most new VIA boards actualy works without the 4IN1 but not at full capacity!
                          If there's artificial intelligence, there's bound to be some artificial stupidity.

                          Jeremy Clarkson "806 brake horsepower..and that on that limp wrist faerie liquid the Americans call petrol, if you run it on the more explosive jungle juice we have in Europe you'd be getting 850 brake horsepower..."

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