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Topha
2nd May 2004, 10:18
Is there a good comparison between those 2 cameras somewhere on the web? A quick google search didnt turn up any results for me, so I thought I might just ask here.

az
2nd May 2004, 12:14
D70, hands down.

The 300D is artificially crippled.

AZ

VJ
3rd May 2004, 01:55
Yep.

Just check both reviews over on http://www.dpreview.com
(and in the buyers guide - to the left - there is the possiblity for a side-by-side feature comparison)
(but the menu doesn't work properly on Opera :))

Jörg

az
3rd May 2004, 02:30
Just take both of them in your hands and decide for yourself :)

AZ

Topha
3rd May 2004, 03:37
Are there any comparable products on the horizon?

az
3rd May 2004, 04:17
For a competitive price, no. But at Photokina, Konica-Minolta will release their Dynax 7D, which will feature image stabilization for ALL lenses, Minolta's great flash system (up to 4 wirelessly controlled flashes with ADI metering), compatibility with their AF lenses, and another, as of yet undisclosed "surprise" feature.

That camera will likely cost a little more that 1000 $, though (I'd guess around 1400 $ list price), as its base, the Dynax 7 film SLR, costs ~700 EUR already.

AZ

VJ
3rd May 2004, 05:10
I'm not sure where Olympus or Pentax *D fit in pricewise...

BTW, Nikon now has CLS (Creative Lighting System), which allows for 3 groups of wirelessly controlled flashes, and offers sublime possibilities (only D2h and D70 currently have this; only flash units supported are the SB800 and SB600)...


Jörg

az
3rd May 2004, 06:21
The Oly E1 is too expensive for what it offers (even after the recent price cuts), lenses are more expensive, and it isn't really a whole lot smaller than 35mm-derived SLRs.

The *ist D is loved by many of its owners, is stylish and small, I just don't know about lenses and acessories.

AZ

Topha
3rd May 2004, 11:52
How about Eos 10D? worth the extra money compared to the D70?

az
3rd May 2004, 12:37
Feature-wise I wouldn't know, keep in mind the cost for lenses (The D70s kit lens is quite adequate, I hear). But the most important thing is really ergonomics, so there's no substitute for trying them both out.

AZ

Wulfman
3rd May 2004, 12:57
the kit lens is fine, distortion is only noticeable at the real wide end.

http://131.130.122.45:81/4images/data/media/54/flieder_rosa.jpg

mfg
wulfman

VJ
4th May 2004, 06:59
Yep, the D70 kitlens gets much better comments than the 300D kitlens (of course, there is a noticable price difference between them).

Jörg

Nappe1
5th May 2004, 03:13
Olympus E1 is extremely good camera, though very expensive one. the picture sharpness is by far in own class. (most likely because own proprietary lenses that are built for 4:3 panel.) Of course this is also minus, because at least right now Olympus is only one making the lenses. 5 MPixels does not sound very impressive, but Olympus has been always more Quality over quantity.

(like what you do with 7 MPixels, if you have fingernail sized optics that are even dimensioned like hell... (as it seems in case of Samsung cameras. so far I haven't found any Samsung that would focus exactly correctly.))

Still, if we are talking about cameras in 300D price range, E1 is definately out. (at least here it has price of 2 x 300D price)

az
6th May 2004, 14:54
You may want to wait a while. There are rumors that the *ist D will get a substantial price cut in the next few weeks (Canon will likely adjust 10D and 300D prices in reaction), and the Minolta DSLR may come in summer already, for 799$! (though I don't quite believe the latter one: It's too early and too cheap without any need for that, especially considering the technological edge Minolta will have with AS.)

There will be a lower-end (mostly in terms of build quality) 4/3 body from Olympus at the end of the year, and most likely a Dynax 9 D and Dynax 5D (one more expensive, one cheaper than the D7D) from Minolta next year. Nothing new is expected from Nikon, and a 3D or so from Canon, featuring 8 MP (not the noisy Sony 2/3 sensor the current 8 mp cams have).

AZ