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Q: Is your software full version or .... ?
A: Our versions is full copies of originals cds.
Q: Some products can works only with dongle. Do I need dongle?
A: No. All software that needed dongle is cracked.
Edit: Plus their "products" can't be updated. My conclusion is that they try to make money by SELLING stuff that normal w*rez sites offer for free.Last edited by Tempest; 9 February 2004, 05:19.
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Arrrr. Not as cheap as other alternatives mateyDM says: Crunch with Matrox Users@ClimatePrediction.net
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No, they're not stupid. They operate from countries where such actions are not illegal, such as Ukraine, so they act with perfect immunity.
Where they make their money is with items like Windows XP, because their XP Pro does not require activation (possibly copies of the Corporate Edition).
Now, do a little thinking. Their CDs are pressed and printed, they are not CD-Rs. How much does it cost for professionals to crack a dongle and other security systems, make a DLT, have a master made and, say, 1,000 copies pressed plus jewel case inserts that look like the original then even shrink-wrap it? My guess is ~ $10k. So they make $20k gross on the deal. Multiply that by each title and ... who's talking about stupidity? You cannot blame them, nor even those who buy the stuff, probably not even knowing it comes from Turkmenistan or Outer Mongolia.
There is a tiny risk. Importing it into wherever you live is liable to confiscation, but this is negligible, because I've little doubt that they don't put on the green Customs slip anything like "Pirated Windows Software". More likely something like "IT Data CD, value $2"
I admit, I fell for it once, on a friend's recommendation. When I saw the goods, I recognised it immediately as piracy and not (as was claimed) OEM discs surplust to requirements.Brian (the devil incarnate)
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Originally posted by Brian Ellis
No, they're not stupid. They operate from countries where such actions are not illegal, such as Ukraine, so they act with perfect immunity.
Where they make their money is with items like Windows XP, because their XP Pro does not require activation (possibly copies of the Corporate Edition).
Now, do a little thinking. Their CDs are pressed and printed, they are not CD-Rs. How much does it cost for professionals to crack a dongle and other security systems, make a DLT, have a master made and, say, 1,000 copies pressed plus jewel case inserts that look like the original then even shrink-wrap it? My guess is ~ $10k. So they make $20k gross on the deal. Multiply that by each title and ... who's talking about stupidity? You cannot blame them, nor even those who buy the stuff, probably not even knowing it comes from Turkmenistan or Outer Mongolia.
2. Printing CDs + Jewel cases cost less than $2 a piece.
3. People who buy this stuff can be blamed for buying stolen goods. Especially after reading the info on the site which show's it's pirated software.
There is a tiny risk. Importing it into wherever you live is liable to confiscation, but this is negligible, because I've little doubt that they don't put on the green Customs slip anything like "Pirated Windows Software". More likely something like "IT Data CD, value $2"
I admit, I fell for it once, on a friend's recommendation. When I saw the goods, I recognised it immediately as piracy and not (as was claimed) OEM discs surplust to requirements.
Either you're naive or you're making a bad excuse for buying pirated software.
P.S.
I don't buy* pirated software.Last edited by TransformX; 9 February 2004, 06:25."For every action, there is an equal and opposite criticism."
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Originally posted by TransformX
3. People who buy this stuff can be blamed for buying stolen goods. Especially after reading the info on the site which show's it's pirated software.
To what extent this applied to software, I don't know...
Jörg
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Originally posted by TransformX
There is no such thing as "OEM discs surplust to requirements".
Then purchasers of computers with OEM proggies they do not want, e.g., MS Works, often sell off the disks/manuals/license (see eBay).Last edited by Brian Ellis; 9 February 2004, 06:48.Brian (the devil incarnate)
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You can buy Oem software from scan.co.uk.
Also if you look around you do see oem stuff for sale as Brian E says above.
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I have seen quite a few copies of legit surplus software, they are usually thing like bundled software for computers sold to corprate's.
They don't require the software just the computers so some enterpriseing dude sells them off, not quite legit but I have no problem buying cheap and legal oem software, even if they method of sale contravenes some arrogant companies eula.
But that link above is obviously a full blown pirate site, oem stuff comes shrinkrapped with the basic stuff eg maunal certifcate and CD, There is no saving removing those(unless you don't have them in the first place=dodgy)
I get these pirate spam's quite regularly, I think we going to have real problems getting rid of spam if these guys can so arrogantly pirate and spam with it seem so little consequence.
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