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**The PIT** · 29 December 2003, 13:23

All I know is that Sophos, F-secure, Nortons and Mcafee have failed at times to detect the Nachi or Blaster worm.

It seems once the worm is installed and running as a service the virus checkers seem to ignore it. Results are varied some will squalk when you try to delete the file yet next time the same program won't even flinch under the same circumstances. Sopho's were asked about this but came back with a dumb reply. "Please ensure you've got all the latest engine and ides" Yup we have thats why we queried with you. Response after that Nil.

**Kurt** · 29 December 2003, 14:42

This test is old enough as to be meaningless. AV software is constantly on the move. A more recent test might show completely different results.

**drslump** · 29 December 2003, 19:26

Eset's NOD32 doesn't appear on the list

According to Virus Bulletin it's been one of the best for the last years!

Antivirus & cyber security for Windows, Android or Mac | ESET

http://www.nod32.com/news/awards.htm#vb24

Best IT security solutions for your home and business devices. Try ESET antivirus and internet security solutions for Windows, Android, Mac or Linux OS.

**Gurm** · 29 December 2003, 20:11

This test is confused and stupid.

I consistently see tests like this from supposedly reputable places that are just plain WRONG.

(Mind you, this doesn't even BEGIN to address the fact that these reviews and tests don't factor in the stability or speed - or lack thereof - of these programs. McAfee would never get ANY recommendations if they admitted that it erased 1 out of 10 systems' c:\windows\system32 directory!)

AVG catches virtually EVERYTHING. Kaspersky is way behind, and F-Secure - while good - is slow and ugly. Right now Norton is probably close to the top, but has failed repeatedly to catch viruses due to their "not every day" update policies.

- Gurm

**TransformX** · 30 December 2003, 04:16

I don't use an antivirus at all. It's been like that for the last 4 years and everything is running smoothly. A decent firewall and being carefull with incoming e-mails is usually enough.

**Technoid** · 30 December 2003, 05:33

Originally posted by TransformX
I don't use an antivirus at all. It's been like that for the last 4 years and everything is running smoothly. A decent firewall and being carefull with incoming e-mails is usually enough.

ahh, just you wait

Luck wont hold your hand indefinitly

**TransformX** · 30 December 2003, 05:39

Originally posted by Technoid
ahh, just you wait

Luck wont hold your hand indefinitly

Luck doesn't hold my hand since I run Win2k (read: Micro$oft OS) so I need a full reinstall every year to keep things running smoothly (or in other words - avoiding those damn BSODs that come after one too many driver/software updates).

**The PIT** · 30 December 2003, 09:36

Originally posted by TransformX
Luck doesn't hold my hand since I run Win2k (read: Micro$oft OS) so I need a full reinstall every year to keep things running smoothly (or in other words - avoiding those damn BSODs that come after one too many driver/software updates).

Funny haven't done a full install for years. The only problems I've got are as follows.

1) Incorrectly working usb steering wheel. Thats Saitek driver problem which effects quite a few users under XP.

2) Camera that loads the wrong drivers. XP problem or Fujifilm driver problem???

All crashes have been hardware related. Faulty CPU which then killed the motherboard. Nothing to do with Microshaft.

Going back to virus's you've been lucky so far but one will get you.

**dbdg** · 30 December 2003, 09:37

Got to agree with Tech, one day you will be bitten

I have always got my virus from my mates PC though, same network, his PC is about as secure as a whores....

On win2k as well and I only ever do a complete rebuild when I build a brand new system.

**TransformX** · 30 December 2003, 10:11

How exactly ?
Downdoads ? I don't download much and when I do it's from "trusted" sources.
e-mails ? I know how to be carefull with those ?
Hackers ? C'mon, with all due respect my computer isn't THAT interesting and besides, my firewall is quite tightly closed and doesn't return pings.

The only "virus" I have is M$ software updates...

And by the way, I miscalulated. I haven't used an anti-virus software for more than 6 years already.

**The PIT** · 30 December 2003, 10:16

And how do you know your trusted source isn't infected. You don't. Emails okay if you use a mailer that uses text based only I suppose. But again that trusted source and the attachment they sent.
Oh and that nice friend that says can I use your pc for a few seconds I need to send an email.

**TransformX** · 30 December 2003, 10:22

Originally posted by The PIT
And how do you know your trusted source isn't infected.
You don't.

If they're infected, you bet your antivirus won't stand a chance.

Emails okay if you use a mailer that uses text based only I suppose. But again that trusted source and the attachment they sent.

I don't run executable attachments and my mailer is blocked by the firewall to ports 25 and 110 respectivly (110 in, 25 out) so it can't do much.

Oh and that nice friend that says can I use your pc for a few seconds I need to send an email.

What's the problem with that ? I don't have a FDD installed on my computer anyway so . . .

**isochar** · 30 December 2003, 12:09

I always go by the Virus Bulletin:

Virus Bulletin :: Page Not Found

http://www.virusbtn.com/vb100/archives/products.xml?table

**dbdg** · 30 December 2003, 13:49

I have come accross a couple of websites that had a virus run from them, one of the artists listed on my site had uploaded a dodgy file without realising it, Norton did catch it for me though, can't be sure about the rest of his visitors.

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