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  • Gnome vs KDE

    Ok, I know that they're both different desktop managers, but what's so different about them? Pros and cons? Discuss.

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    This could get really ugly
    If there's artificial intelligence, there's bound to be some artificial stupidity.

    Jeremy Clarkson "806 brake horsepower..and that on that limp wrist faerie liquid the Americans call petrol, if you run it on the more explosive jungle juice we have in Europe you'd be getting 850 brake horsepower..."

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    • #3
      Well, the biggest difference between them is the fact that they're based on two entirely different GUI toolkits. GNOME is based on GTK+ and KDE is based on QT. QT looks and acts, imho, a lot better than GTK+. It feels a lot faster, and also has a polished feel that GTK+ lacks.

      Other than that, the two desktop environments are pretty much the same. Taskbar with startmenu, integrated filemanager and browser, e-mail clients etc.

      EDIT: I just thought I'd add that I'm using some KDE applications in Window Maker. Especially KMail, which is an excellent MUA. And the reason I'm using that instead of the GNOME counterpart is just that GNOME apps feel sluggish on my machine. I can see the harddrive load when I'm opening up a menu, and navigating through submenus is a real pain in the arse when it comes to GNOME applications in general. It should NOT take 1 second to load and display the contents of a "File" or "Edit" menu. Even GIMP 2, when switching to GTK+ 2 has managed to import this sluggishness. I just hate it when I'm trying to go into a submenu and the menu hasn't even registered that the mouse has landed on it. I have to go back to the main menu, rest the mouse for a while, and then back in to the submenu. Arrrgh!!!
      Last edited by albatorsk; 10 November 2003, 14:05.

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      • #4
        I use GNOME. When I first started using Linux I tried out both and couldn't get KDE the way I wanted, but GNOME worked out perfectly and I haven't tried KDE since.
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        • #5
          @albatorsk

          Just curious, which version of Gnome were you running? Personally I prefer Gnome, and I'll tell ya why.

          KDE either has too distracting of widgets, (I'm talking aobut the default Keramik theme (why on earth the default is Yellow is beyond me...)) or they are plain ugly (some of the other KDE themes).

          Gnome's themes are less in your face, and yet still look pretty nice. (Granted the default GTK+ theme looks pretty horrible).

          The other big difference is configurability. If you like to tweak everything on your desktop, then KDE is the way to go. If you like a clean UI that doesn't have a billion options, and good defaults (you can still tweak it a lot, but usually you'll have to do it through Gconf, but at least it's easier to understand the variables than it is to hack the windows' registry.)

          I've used both of them lately to give them each a spin. Seems to me that when you're in the Gnome environment, KDE apps take forever to load up. (because it uses DCOP) But when you're using KDE, Gnome applets load up just as quickly as if you were in Gnome.

          Gnome 2.4 is VERY much improved as far as speed goes over 1.4 and 2.2. There are a few things that I think would be nice if Gnome had, that KDE does. Like having a GUI for changing the XCursor. But KDE is still missing a browser that has mouse gestures built-in. Granted, you can download Opera which uses QT, so it fits in nicely with KDE, but if you get a static version, the theme won't match

          I've never had Gnome feel sluggish to me. And usually the menu thing fixes itself after you first click on it and it loads into memory. (in fact with Gnome 2.4 I haven't noticed it take anytime at all....)

          Anyhow, these are just from my experience. I will say that they have two seperate agendas. KDE is mostly for the power users, whereas Gnome is going for the user who usually just wants to get some work done without having to play too much with getting the color of their scroll bar just right...

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          • #6
            What would be your verdict on Ximian (Gnome) ?
            "For every action, there is an equal and opposite criticism."

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            • #7
              using gnome here.

              why? never felt the urge to try something different.

              mfg
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              • #8
                KDE user here. Like, albatorsk, I think KDE looks a lot better than gnome. Speed wise, i also think KDE is faster for some reason.

                For me, KDE rules, and gnome is second, and window maker is last (I think the KDE community must be set up by some serious desktop theme modding folks ) (like me :P)

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                • #9
                  I've been meaning to try the newer Gnomes for a long time, but I've never gotten around to it.

                  I usually stick to KDE, but occasionally I play around with Enlightenment, FVWM, and Fluxbox.

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                  • #10
                    I used to use gnome years ago, but for some reason I drifted to KDE, probably because its the default mandrake desktop.

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                    • #11
                      hmm... just took a look at Fluxbox, on my list of fav its 2nd now, after KDE. I think the reason why i like KDE is it is very clean and usable.

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                      • #12
                        I really think you should try Ximian.

                        They weren't bought by Novell for nothing you know.
                        "For every action, there is an equal and opposite criticism."

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by TransformX
                          I really think you should try Ximian.

                          They weren't bought by Novell for nothing you know.
                          Sounds like some kind of monkey buissnes
                          If there's artificial intelligence, there's bound to be some artificial stupidity.

                          Jeremy Clarkson "806 brake horsepower..and that on that limp wrist faerie liquid the Americans call petrol, if you run it on the more explosive jungle juice we have in Europe you'd be getting 850 brake horsepower..."

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