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Kooldino
1st August 2003, 14:10
click the link, hit CTRL+A, and grab some popcorn...

http://www.ngemu.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=38092

Byock
1st August 2003, 14:46
Wow, quite a read. I would not be surpised if he is right...

GT98
1st August 2003, 15:28
Makes alot of sense! :D

thop
1st August 2003, 19:09
If I'm an Evil Robot Empire and I take over the world, am I going to keep my enemies alive to use as captive batteries?
-- HELL NO! It would be in my best interests to utterly *exterminate* my biological opposition.
I stopped reading here.

Technoid
2nd August 2003, 03:01
I read it all and for some parts it makes sence and for some it don't :cool:
Anyway It's "Galvatron" that has told us this and he's madder than the mad hatter and his teaparty :P

Gurm
2nd August 2003, 05:50
The problem is that NONE of these stupid people who are coming up with "the facts" has REALLY read all the stuff they claim to have read. He blindly quotes Plato without examining any of the common interpretations of Plato and the successive works of other Greek philosophers.

He mixes and matches things to suit his interpretations.

AND... perhaps MOST importantly... while he pulls in stuff from the Animatrix (which, while it IS supposed to be part of the Matrix universe, was all written by someone OTHER than the Wachowski brothers) he UTTERLY fails to include any analysis of "Enter the Matrix", which WAS written by the Wachowski brothers and IS an official part of the universe since it happens simultaneously to "Reloaded". Some of it contradicts his thoughts on the matter. :)

All in all I say just wait. It CANNOT be as complex as people think. This is a movie intended for American movie audiences, a group with the collective intellect of an 8-year-old.

Gpar_

GT98
2nd August 2003, 08:03
Originally posted by Gurm


AND... perhaps MOST importantly... while he pulls in stuff from the Animatrix (which, while it IS supposed to be part of the Matrix universe, was all written by someone OTHER than the Wachowski brothers) he UTTERLY fails to include any analysis of "Enter the Matrix", which WAS written by the Wachowski brothers and IS an official part of the universe since it happens simultaneously to "Reloaded". Some of it contradicts his thoughts on the matter. :)


Hmm from the Animatrix DVD I have in front of me:

The Second Renaissance part I & II

Written by Andy and Larry Wachowski

Directed by Mahiro Maeda

Other Shorts written by Wachowskis:

Final Flight of the Osiris
Kid's Story

All them tie in quite nicely with the 2 films ;)

Gurm
2nd August 2003, 11:09
Yep, my bad. I had forgotten that those 3 (4, if you really count 2nd Renaissance as two films) are/were written by the Wachowskis.

And this guy DOES raise really valid points... like how did the machines, which in the movies are so damn susceptible to EMP, survive a full-on nuclear strike? Hmm?

But I don't think they're robots any more than I think they're in "another Matrix". Both answers are all wrong for the target audience.

Gpar_

Drizzt
4th August 2003, 01:12
To me, it seems that people has not really seen the film...

Gurm
4th August 2003, 19:31
Now, don't start.

Gpar_

Marshmallowman
4th August 2003, 20:29
And this guy DOES raise really valid points... like how did the machines, which in the movies are so damn susceptible to EMP, survive a full-on nuclear strike? Hmm?

not that I have seen the other movies.

1. They had backup machines still in the crate, since the were switched off and in metal packing cases they were protested :)

2. They were switched off at the time.

3. It just a movie(s)

GT98
4th August 2003, 20:52
Originally posted by Marshmallowman
not that I have seen the other movies.

2. They were switched off at the time.




EMP Frys electronics if its on or off....has to be harden to resist EMP...then again its a movie thing works for me too lol

DukeP
5th August 2003, 00:08
Interesting read.
He might be right, but its a shame he's a bit weak on his facts (the historical and myhtological being worst).
This tend to undermined his otherwise quite ardeous work.

~~DukeP~~

Drizzt
5th August 2003, 00:49
Originally posted by Gurm
Now, don't start.

Gpar_


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