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    I'm buying a new P4 2.4GHz. I was going to see how it overclocks and based on results, either sell my 2.8 and keep the 2.4, or sell the 2.4 if the 2.8 overclocks better. My question is: Would a 2.4C (800 MHz FSB) overclock better than a 2.4B (533 MHz FSB) on a 533MHz FSB capable board (mine in this case is the GA-8INXP, Granite Bay board). Well, that and I am wondering if a 800MHz FSB processor will run at all in a 533MHz mobo. Price is not an issue here since I won't be losing any money, esp if I sell my 2.8 and replace it with a 2.4. Any info would be appreciated.
    System Specs:
    Gigabyte 8INXP - Pentium 4 2.8@3.4 - 1GB Corsair 3200 XMS - Enermax 550W PSU - 2 80GB WDs 8MB cache in RAID 0 array - 36GB Seagate 15.3K SCSI boot drive - ATI AIW 9700 - M-Audio Revolution - 16x Pioneer DVD slot load - Lite-On 48x24x48x CD-RW - Logitech MX700 - Koolance PC2-601BW case - Cambridge MegaWorks 550s - Mitsubishi 2070SB 22" CRT

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  • #2
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    Most 2.4b's (533MHz) will do about 3.0GHz. The 2.4c's, D-1 stepping(800MHz) will do around 3.2 to 3.4 GHz.

    My vote would be for the 800MHz bus CPUs and a Dual Channel mobo , you'll get much higher memory bandwidth from the dual channel DDR.
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    • #3
      Well how do you think it would work on a 533MHz FSB mobo though (it is dual channel, but the FSB capability is what I am wondering about). That's my main question. It'd be no question if it was on a 800MHz mobo, but I'm not upgrading the mobo anytime, not until at least 6 months later.

      EDIT: To make it clear, I'm talking about running a 800MHz FSB CUP on a 533MHz FSB motherboard.
      Last edited by BuddMan; 17 June 2003, 21:52.
      System Specs:
      Gigabyte 8INXP - Pentium 4 2.8@3.4 - 1GB Corsair 3200 XMS - Enermax 550W PSU - 2 80GB WDs 8MB cache in RAID 0 array - 36GB Seagate 15.3K SCSI boot drive - ATI AIW 9700 - M-Audio Revolution - 16x Pioneer DVD slot load - Lite-On 48x24x48x CD-RW - Logitech MX700 - Koolance PC2-601BW case - Cambridge MegaWorks 550s - Mitsubishi 2070SB 22" CRT

      Our Father, who 0wnz heaven, j00 r0ck!
      May all 0ur base someday be belong to you!
      Give us this day our warez, mp3z, and pr0n through a phat pipe.
      And cut us some slack when we act like n00b lamerz,
      just as we teach n00bz when they act lame on us.
      For j00 0wn r00t on all our b0x3s 4ever and ever, 4m3n.

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      • #4
        Ok, nm, I'm looking at this the wrong way. I was thinking that putting the 2.4c in a 533 FSB mobo would make the proc run at 2.4 @ 533FSB at stock speeds. But I'd have to overclock just to reach the stock speed, so I guess it wouldn't be beneficial after all. Oh well, 2.4B it is. Thanks for the info guys.
        System Specs:
        Gigabyte 8INXP - Pentium 4 2.8@3.4 - 1GB Corsair 3200 XMS - Enermax 550W PSU - 2 80GB WDs 8MB cache in RAID 0 array - 36GB Seagate 15.3K SCSI boot drive - ATI AIW 9700 - M-Audio Revolution - 16x Pioneer DVD slot load - Lite-On 48x24x48x CD-RW - Logitech MX700 - Koolance PC2-601BW case - Cambridge MegaWorks 550s - Mitsubishi 2070SB 22" CRT

        Our Father, who 0wnz heaven, j00 r0ck!
        May all 0ur base someday be belong to you!
        Give us this day our warez, mp3z, and pr0n through a phat pipe.
        And cut us some slack when we act like n00b lamerz,
        just as we teach n00bz when they act lame on us.
        For j00 0wn r00t on all our b0x3s 4ever and ever, 4m3n.

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        • #5
          Buddman,

          Based on my limited knowledge of how the P4 2.4C and 2.8 work, here is what I think will happen.

          2.4Ghz/800Mhz fsb = 3 (clock multiplier)
          2.8Ghz/533Mhz fsb = 4.5 (clock multiplier)

          Now, all Intel P4 CPU's are unless I'm mistaken, clock multiplier locked. So the only way to overclock them is to increase your FSB.

          Hence your 2.4C CPU would only run at a speed of 1.6Ghz at the default 533Mhz FSB of your Granite Bay board. Now, I do not know what your chances are of actually getting that board's FSB to go to 200Mhz, let alone 225 or 235Mhz (I am using those numbers because Intel quad pumps the base FSB).

          So your 533Mhz fsb is really a 133Mhz fsb. And your 800Mhz fsb is really a 200Mhz fsb.

          I hope I'm not confusing you throwing all these numbers at you. In short, it would behove you to get a new MB along with the 2.4C CPU. That way you can get the most out of overclocking your 2.4Ghz CPU and take advantage its 800Mhz FSB (200Mhz X 4)
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          • #6
            Yeah I finally figured it out, heh. I can't afford a new mobo right now though, so I'm gonna wait on the 800MHz FSB. Oh well, wishful thinking, but now I can have some fun with this 2.4 when I get it and see how far she will go.
            System Specs:
            Gigabyte 8INXP - Pentium 4 2.8@3.4 - 1GB Corsair 3200 XMS - Enermax 550W PSU - 2 80GB WDs 8MB cache in RAID 0 array - 36GB Seagate 15.3K SCSI boot drive - ATI AIW 9700 - M-Audio Revolution - 16x Pioneer DVD slot load - Lite-On 48x24x48x CD-RW - Logitech MX700 - Koolance PC2-601BW case - Cambridge MegaWorks 550s - Mitsubishi 2070SB 22" CRT

            Our Father, who 0wnz heaven, j00 r0ck!
            May all 0ur base someday be belong to you!
            Give us this day our warez, mp3z, and pr0n through a phat pipe.
            And cut us some slack when we act like n00b lamerz,
            just as we teach n00bz when they act lame on us.
            For j00 0wn r00t on all our b0x3s 4ever and ever, 4m3n.

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