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dZeus
27th March 2003, 13:50
How to turn an everyday PC into a BBQ, although almost completely silent? This is how I did it:

Take this case:
http://www.coolermaster.nl/pruducts/case/atc/atc111.htm

take out / turn off all the case fans

add this PSU:
http://www.silentmaxx.de/nt_prosilence_fanless.php

take a P3-700, OC it to 966 MHz

add this heatsink:
http://www.zalman.co.kr/english/product/cnps6000Cu.htm

add this fan to that heatsink, and run it at lowest speed with fanmate which comes with the CPU HSF kit:
http://www.zalman.co.kr/english/product/cnpsvga3.htm

Add this video card:
http://www.sapphiretech.com/vga/9500pro.asp

replace the HSF on the videocard with this one:
http://www.zalman.co.kr/english/product/zm80a-hp.htm

take this HDD:
http://www.seagate.com/cda/products/discsales/marketing/detail/0,1081,507,00.html

put it in this HDD suspension:
http://www.noisecontrol.de/info/rahmen/eide/inf.htm

add this noise-insulation kit (btw. NO audible difference, thus completly useless to me):
http://www.coolermaster.com.hk/en/products/other/pnk-u01.html

- Price of all components:
a few kidneys (who needs them anyway?) and a liver (alcohol makes it worthless for your body if I don't sell it)

- Start up CPUburn and watching the CPU temp climb to 71 degrees C, causing a BSOD:
priceless


So.....

I need to add some exhaust fan, since my HDD, Videocard and CPU turn into gourmet equipment right now if I stress the PC a lot.

I'll add a 8cm Zalman fan at 5v to the back soon, and see what happens to the temps

Edit: some pictures of the PC in action:
http://dzeus.student.utwente.nl/users/~dzeus/BBQpc/DSCF0375.JPG
http://dzeus.student.utwente.nl/users/~dzeus/BBQpc/DSCF0376.JPG
http://dzeus.student.utwente.nl/users/~dzeus/BBQpc/DSCF0377.JPG
http://dzeus.student.utwente.nl/users/~dzeus/BBQpc/DSCF0378.JPG
http://dzeus.student.utwente.nl/users/~dzeus/BBQpc/DSCF0379.JPG

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Chrono_Wanderer
27th March 2003, 14:41
YUMMY!!!! that's a kick ass computer you got there...

Now... where's the beer???? :p

edit: o yea. That is some super high quality photos. what camera did you use?

Novdid
27th March 2003, 14:54
Nice rig!:up:


Yeah who needs akidney anyways!!!:p

Pace
27th March 2003, 16:20
DSCF implies Sony to me...

az
28th March 2003, 02:36
dZeus: take the PSU out of the PC. It will be good for the PC and the PSU, and won't do any harm, since it has no exhaust fan anyway.

AZ

Sethos
28th March 2003, 05:18
One word (and in the interest of all that are litteral we'll say one important word...)

--> SWEET! <--

~Sethos

Kooldino
28th March 2003, 07:54
Aye not bad. Now grill me up a steak.
:-)

CHHAS
28th March 2003, 10:17
I just got 3 Papst 8412N/2GL today, time to silence up my pc :)

dZeus
28th March 2003, 12:33
The photocamera is a Fuji FinePix 2300... it produces very bad pictures when there's little light, and it's digital equivalent to 'exposure time' is very long, so you ahve to have a very steady hand when taking pictures :)

On the BBQ pc:

I've enabled a casefan in both the back and top of the case, and if I run it in the back it seems to drop the HDD and CPU temp the most (well within safe regions, down from BBQ hot causing BSODs)... perhaps if I get a ThermalRight SL800 and build some kind of shroud going from the CPU to the case exhaust fan, I might get away with just one fan in the system...
under investigation :)

anyway.. I first need to get a quieter casefan, like a Zalman 8cm unit, running at 5v... perhaps I'll pick up the SL800 at the same time.

Another thing I have to do: right now the Plextor Plexwriter is disconnected from the psu, since it's fan spins at all times and is incredibly whiney... I'll add a transistor which will only let the fan spin when the leds which indicate that a CD is being burned is lighting up.

Updates will follow :)

Pace
28th March 2003, 15:21
Originally posted by Pace
DSCF implies Sony to me... Ok, been told DSCF does not mean Sony by Mr dZeus, and he obviously does not have a Sony.

So, what does it mean? Google provided "Delftsche Studenten Filmclub" which I presume is wrong :)

az
29th March 2003, 00:43
Digital Still Camera File?

AZ

az
29th March 2003, 00:58
BTW, dZeus, this might interest you:

at http://deltatronic.info/ you can get a completely fanless, heatpipe-cooled PC. Unfortunately, the site is in german only, but if you made it through the silentmaxx site, you'll survive this one too :)

AZ

dZeus
29th March 2003, 05:17
Yeah, I've read some reviews on the deltratronic system.. it's nice, but I don't want to buy a fixed hardware config for a huge price premium...

on the other hand, if they would sell those heatpipe CPU kits seperately...

az
29th March 2003, 07:17
They sell a kit - case (you need it because the heatsink is the entire right side (when viewed from the front)), CPU heatpipe, harddisk cage, northbridge cooler, PSU - for 820 EUR!

AZ

dZeus
29th March 2003, 08:24
I've got all but the CPU Heatpipe already... just need the CPU heatpipe thing for a Socket 370 PC :)

(and I think 820 euro for what they offer is insane)

Technoid
29th March 2003, 12:35
I thought most of their site content was a bit deranged :D

Not just the price ;)

Kooldino
31st March 2003, 09:06
Originally posted by az
They sell a kit - case (you need it because the heatsink is the entire right side (when viewed from the front)), CPU heatpipe, harddisk cage, northbridge cooler, PSU - for 820 EUR!

AZ

GAWD, that's expensive!!!

Pace
20th April 2003, 06:56
Are you quite pleased with the power supply dZeus?

I have my P3-800 running with the Zalman 6000Cu as well, and just need to add a quiet harddrive, possibly a Seagate Barracuda V, but I would ideally like a 3-year warranty on the drive...

Also thinking about power supplies as you can guess, wonder if that place would ship to the UK...

CHHAS
20th April 2003, 07:47
I recently replaced the fan in my PSU with the Pabst they advertise as 12dB, talk about a world of difference :)

As for quiet harddrives I heard some really promising comments on the silectpcreview forums about the new Samsung drives. I'm waiting for their review before I purchase a new one.

WyWyWyWy
20th April 2003, 08:28
dZeus can you please comment on the CoolerMaster ProStudio?
Really no audible difference at all?

Jammrock
20th April 2003, 14:18
dZues is currently out on a skiing holiday, but should be back shortly.

I've asked him about his p/s and he seems to like it. Though you do need a case with a removable p/s cover on the back, or cut one out yourself. He has a CoolerMaster case of some type that has a removable p/s bezel.

I just built a nice little SFF (small form factor) computer for a friend on Friday:

case/mobo: http://us.shuttle.com/specs2.asp?pro_id=163

...and slapped in a Baracuda V HDD. This thing is silent as can be...when the CD-ROM drive isn't running.

Though I did spot a new Plextor CD-RW that has a drive speed controller :D

http://www.plextor.com/english/products/Premium.html

Maybe someday I'll built a nice quit rig like that for an HTPC.

Jammrock

CHHAS
20th April 2003, 14:55
Is that thing really quiet Jammock ? I would have thought something that small would need a lot of active cooling to run.

Jammrock
20th April 2003, 16:40
The CPU is cooled via a liquid/vapor system that's very effective. Besides that it only has two fans, one 90(100?) mm on the back (where the radiator for the CPU cooler gets cooled down) and one 30 mm fan in the p/s. Both fans are low RPM and very quiet. To help things there are vents in the side of the case.

With the super silent Baracuda V hard drive, the computer is whisper quiet when the CD-ROM isn't running. Simple as that.

Jammrock

az
20th April 2003, 18:59
There is a program called CD-Bremse which reduces the CD-ROM's speed, and thus noise, even more so than speed. And no one really needs 52x CD-ROM drives (or even 24x, for that matter).

AZ

dZeus
21st April 2003, 00:32
Originally posted by Pace
Are you quite pleased with the power supply dZeus?

I have my P3-800 running with the Zalman 6000Cu as well, and just need to add a quiet harddrive, possibly a Seagate Barracuda V, but I would ideally like a 3-year warranty on the drive...

Also thinking about power supplies as you can guess, wonder if that place would ship to the UK...

The PSU works just fine. It's been tested by C'T (famous German PC magazine), and they concluded that the 350 Watt that it's being advertised at is a gross exaggeration (it performs more like a 200 Watt PSU), but nevertheless it could power a P4 2.8 GHz with 9700 Pro without problems in stress-tests (in another, this time online, magazine), as found here (http://www.teschke.de/heatpipes/News/components/Powersupplys/proSilence_Part_1/prosilence_part_1.html). It doesn't have a ATX12 connector as required on many P4 motherboards though (Asus boards have connectors for regular molex power input as well).

They ship to almost anywhere in the world from what I could see on their website.


Originally posted by WyWyWyWy
dZeus can you please comment on the CoolerMaster ProStudio?
Really no audible difference at all?

I don't have any measurement tools (dB measurement tools are quite expensive), but I couldn't hear any audible difference. My guess is that there is a difference, but it's very small, and probably mainly noticable on very noisy systems which have Delta fans spinning at high rpm figures, etc.