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3dfx
10th March 2003, 04:44
I'am looking for some advice ppl :p Basically I'am in the process of doing highers, which is Scotlands equivalent to A-levels. So I'am wondering which is the best way to go from here ? HNC/HND or degree and or workplace ? I was looking at a couple of courses this year, one was an HNC in media etc what do you think?

GNEP
10th March 2003, 06:38
Do a degree.

J1NG
10th March 2003, 10:30
Preferably a sandwich course (effectively gives 1 year work experience during the 3rd year). Don't want to go out green like I will be in, ooh, 3 months. :)

J1NG

Pace|Work
10th March 2003, 12:28
At some point the decision comes down to yourself - depending on where you want to head, whether you fancy several career paths, and what kind of level you want to reach - hopefully the thought above and my ramblings below can ensure that you are generally better informed about the paths :)

Also, here is a previous thread that I started last year - <a href="http://forums.murc.ws/showthread.php?s=&threadid=37683" title="Careers in computing...A+? MSCE? BSc? Diploma?">Careers in computing...A+? MSCE? BSc? Diploma?</a>

Here be the aforementioned ramblings...;)

For long term career prospects then a degree-level qualification really becomes paramount. I'm working for Sun in Linlithgow (at the moment), which requires below degree, and basic Unix knowledge - the career prospects towards Unix administration seem reasonable, but I'll have to try and find a job in Unix support before I can get a full Unix admin job.

Most 1st-line Windows tech support jobs only ask for Windows knowledge and likely 'some' experience. If you want to get more advanced roles (2-line support, support officer, senior support), then a degree will really help jumpstart you into these - however, a few years experience would also get you there. So, possibly a degree and part-time job would be good. As noted above, a placement period could be very beneficial.

The problem now is that most UK companies have realised graduates are useless to them - without training. Finding a graduate job is now very hard - getting the job even harder. However, a graduate can apply to jobs in any discipline. Some jobs will ask for a degree or relevant experience - so, in my case, I can only apply for Windows support, web development at a stretch and possibly Unix (a few more months at Sun will help there). My mates with degrees can apply anywhere - although they'll likely lose out to people who have exactly matching experience.

Then of course there are places where degrees are compulsory - many large companies will simply ignore you unless you have a first class or second class degree.

I'm a bit busy at work so I'll just post this now, here's a few links to recruitment agencies. Look at local and national papers and see what jobs you are interested in - then see what the requirements are. Note that jobs at the moment aren't too easy to come by, getting your foot in the door can always be helpful. You might have the requirements for better positions, but holding out for one of these at the moment might not be the best idea. However, employers won't look too favourable on people who keep switching jobs to jump up the ladder :)

www.reed.co.uk/it
www.monster.co.uk
www.s1jobs.com

Hope this can be of some help, if I think of more I'll add it on,

P.