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  • The real reason that the Pentium 4 underperforms!

    The picture says it all
    If there's artificial intelligence, there's bound to be some artificial stupidity.

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    LOL

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    • #3
      The original Pentium was a good chip (and the only true superscalar CISC ever made, AFAIK). If you could somehow crank it up to P4 clock speeds, I reckon its performance would be quite close to the actual P4.
      Blah blah blah nick blah blah confusion, blah blah blah blah frog.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Ribbit
        ...and the only true superscalar CISC ever made, AFAIK...
        You're forgetting Motorolas 68060 here, it seems. This was a CISC with many RISC attributes like superscalar as well and gave about Pentium90 performance at 50MHz.
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        • #5
          Why ever did they stop that good ol' 68k line of processors?
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            Hehe, I like the stylish reset button they have on their site!



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            • #7
              Zokes, is this an association game thread also? I don;t get it...:?:
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Umfriend
                Zokes, is this an association game thread also? I don;t get it...:?:
                The reset button says "CTRL-ALT-DEL" which I find funny, that's all.


                Oh and it comes fromt he same site as Technoid's pic. So techincally in still in contexte!
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Indiana
                  You're forgetting Motorolas 68060 here, it seems. This was a CISC with many RISC attributes like superscalar as well and gave about Pentium90 performance at 50MHz.
                  I don't know much about the '060. I do remember reading a quote (which I'm never going to find now) from a Motorola engineer when the '060 and Pentium were still in development, where he basically said "The 68060 is going to be good, but the 586 [as it was still called] is going to be much faster than it anyway". So your P90/060-50 comparison surprises me. I'll have to go find some benchmarks.

                  Umf, they still make the m68K (in a way) - they're optimised for embedded systems now and they're called 'ColdFire'.
                  Blah blah blah nick blah blah confusion, blah blah blah blah frog.

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                  • #10
                    Yeah, I used an M68HC11 for my embedded control class. It was fun, except when I had to wrestle with the horrible C compiler.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Ribbit
                      The original Pentium was a good chip (and the only true superscalar CISC ever made, AFAIK). If you could somehow crank it up to P4 clock speeds, I reckon its performance would be quite close to the actual P4.
                      Pentium 1 would likely kill a P4 clock for clock with a few minor tweaks.

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                      • #12
                        The M68HC11 is different from the the M68K (i.e. 680x0)...

                        Let's see... Take a Pentium running at 3GHz. Now a Pentium Pro at 180MHz is supposedly twice as fast as a Pentium at 150MHz (according to Intel at the time of PPro's release), so a 3GHz Pentium can be assumed to be as fast as a PPro 1.8GHz. Now the PPro and PIII cores are the same, so let's assume that our fictional 3GHz Pentium is as fast as a (equally fictional) 1.8GHz PIII. The PIII is about as fast as the Athlon clock-for-clock, so that's an Athlon 1.8Ghz. The Athlon at 1.8GHz has a PR of what, 2200+? So assuming AMD's ratings are accurate (we've made a lot of assumptions, one more won't hurt), a 3GHz Pentium would be about as fast as a 2.2GHz P4, other things being equal. Not too shabby, if you ask me.
                        Blah blah blah nick blah blah confusion, blah blah blah blah frog.

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                        • #13
                          I stand corrected.
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                          • #14
                            I think with a few minor changes such as 512kb on die cache the Pentium would score a little better then that.
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                            • #15
                              just check the ICP and count ;-)
                              If there's artificial intelligence, there's bound to be some artificial stupidity.

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