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**landrover** · 5 January 2003, 12:35

In my Win98 days I had good results with my Marvel: capture hardware MJPEG with AVI_IO, frameserve with VirtualDub, convert to VCD with TMPGEnc.
Since XP I ditched MJPEG and now capture YUY2 (HuffYUV codec). Rest of the procedure still the same. Can´t capture more than 352x288 with HuffYUV, though...
VCD quality still excellent for home use.

landrover

**jimbo7979** · 8 January 2003, 13:47

thank you land rover for your reply.have been experimenting with different setting and and getting different results.I dont have the programs you use so I can't copy you.best results I had was capture mjpeg with matrox vcr.bring in to video wave to edit and convert from mjpeg.then use nero to create a svcd.I seem to loose quality when creating vcd's.the picture goes pixely like its been done with nearest naibourhood and no filters like biqubic filters which I use in dvdx when converting dvd,s to vcd.when I do this I get excellent results...does ulead video studio6 have filters to use because I can make my vcds easy but I loose all my quality...any hints would be appreciated.
Jim.uk

**Graham Meredith** · 8 January 2003, 14:15

Do you use TMPGEnc to convert your AVI's to mpg? I had a lot of trouble getting good quality VCD's before I used it. Now all of my VCD's are silky smooth, at least as good as VHS, capturing with G400TV and hardware MJPEG in PC-VCR, then to VirtualDub for any editing, then frameserve to TMPGEnc and convert using the "Video CD (PAL)" template in TMPGEnc. I have never had a pixelly VCD ever, doing it this way.

Graham

**landrover** · 8 January 2003, 15:44

There you go, Jimbo. Amen to Graham. As you see, TMPGEnc is THE encoder to go for and does make the difference between good and bad VCD´s.

landrover

**jimbo7979** · 8 January 2003, 18:52

am I doingsomthing wrong? I captured mjpeg 352x288 using matrox vcr. did'nt edit just to test the set up.opened TMPGEnc selected vcd pal,opened my file and just klicked next until it started encoding.the out put and picture I see when its encoding is just a black screen with a grid of white dots on it. the sound is fine. ps whats frameserve. I tried 3 different TMPGEnc versions.

**areia** · 11 January 2003, 15:11

Jimbo, it seems to me that what you need is a software-capture solution, altough you shoud get enough quality to make a vcd from matrox mjpeg. First, you shoud search the MURC for old messages, 1999/2000 - there you will find the discussion about the driver/videotools combo you should use under win98, and also the advantages of each one, all had been discussed till exaustion. After that, download and install. Then, grab these 4 aplications:
1- AVI_IO - small aplication to capture video, allows no drop frames and perfect a/v sync;
2- virtualdub - very good to edit you capture files;
3- TMPEGenc - the best to make vcd;
4- Hufyuy video codec - a lossless video codec, produces very large files(8/9 mb/sec) but it doesn't "charge" your cpu and it's the best(I think) to edit and recompress.

Capture with avi_io, use Hufyuy as video codec(compressor) and edit with virtualdub. The final avi file should be compressed with TMPEGenc. Burn it with Nero. Seems I'm making a cake

**Job** · 12 January 2003, 10:19

I make VCD's using G400 and Rainbow Runner G...

and prior to that the G200 and RRG.....
into MJPEG at 704x576 (PAL) or 352x288...

But - and here's the catch - I use Premiere.....yes - very slow, but I've never become familiar with MSPro (even though its reportedly much faster).

I have tried what you are doing and encoding directly through TEMPGEnc 1 versions and found the pixelation + interlacing a chore to get around a- soopeted to continue with Prem.

Prem also alows me to add my logo, clip out the black top and bottoms to focus the encoding onto the main mvement area and remove the overscan. My choice I guess.

Anyway - try the new TEMPGEnc 2.5 which suses out your interlace etc through the wizard - I found this very neat and with a deinterlace from the 704x576 format seemed reasonable.
I dont think the 352x288 is interlaced (some time ago).

When exporting from Premier - it stuffs up the field basing for some reason mordrid could explain, so I select the clip in the timeline and video>force deinterlace and export 704x576 to TMPGEnc via AVISynth. Quality is excellent and better than anything else I have tried - I like the comment above to describe the quality - "silk smooth" very little pixelation if any.

Anyway - that's all I can offer = it seems you're pretty new to this video thing - Some of the people here have been doing for years and will tell you , at least for the next couple of years a decent "Standard encoding format" plug and play - no hassles - easy peasy - solution wont be available and you'll have to suffer the same trial and error path we went down.

Hang in there...

my2c

**Debbie** · 13 January 2003, 01:30

Hi jimbo7979,

You quoted:
"I see when its encoding is just a black screen with a grid of white dots on it"

To solve this in TMPGEnc you have to go to Options, Environmental settings, VFAPI Plug-ins

Right click on AVI VFW and set priority to high.
Repeat this until it is right on top.

My template bitrate setting for MPEG-1 is 1400.

Regards,

Debbie

**jimbo7979** · 13 January 2003, 16:12

Thanks for all your help every one.
I had spent a lot of time messing with programs like video wave and it was all ok. edited fine and all that.but ask it to create a vcd
and it lost all its quality.Anyway getting good results now.
THANKS YOU ALL......

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