Interesting Article on Post-War Plans for Iraq

[GT98]

Nothing like planning for the victory before it happens , but anyway is that they are looking to do what they did in Japan in 1945 in Iraq in 2003...

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/nyt/20021011/ts_nyt/u_s__has_a_plan_to_occupy_iraq__officials_report&e=5

[Jammrock]

Industrialize the coutry...make it easier for us to get the oil. I agree that Sadam should get ousted, as long as that's what the war is truely about, and not oil.

Jammrock

[mutz]

...well, it's probably both, since Saddam has his hand on the spigot...

[SpiralDragon]

i just hope that the Iraqi ppl will be able to benefit from all the wealth iraq has and not replaced by another tyrant or monopolistic companies...

[dZeus]

btw. I also read that the CIA published a report on the probability of Saddam Hussein using chemical/biological weapons in the future, which was concluded to be minimal by specialists, and that the risk of him using them would increase considerably in case nothing was to be lost, i.e. he would be attacked by the US.

[RedRed]

Of course its about oil.... and a useful way to make the voters forget the economy has gone down the toilet


DZeus
Its always been the case.... I said this before and got my ass flamed....

RedRed

[GT98]

Originally posted by dZeus
btw. I also read that the CIA published a report on the probability of Saddam Hussein using chemical/biological weapons in the future, which was concluded to be minimal by specialists, and that the risk of him using them would increase considerably in case nothing was to be lost, i.e. he would be attacked by the US.

I've heard of this report, but what about him supplying them to a 3rd party? Plus removing him will hopefully start a change for the better in the ME, if at all possible.

[dZeus]

Originally posted by RedRed
Of course its about oil.... and a useful way to make the voters forget the economy has gone down the toilet


DZeus
Its always been the case.... I said this before and got my ass flamed....

RedRed

That's because you are a blood-hearted liberal piece of eurotrash...

[RedRed]

and no mistake!
RedRed

[K6-III]

No, the Iraqi people will not benefit from the sale of oil because it will not be sold, but taken by US military might....

....or so the Bush administration would like....

The situation in Japan called for a massive investment in education, on the order of 60% of the national budget, a figure I heavily doubt Iraq will go after...

[KRSESQ]

The thinking seems to be that overthrowing Saddam and installing a pro-west government (hopefully democratically elected--we can have Jimmy Carter supervise the elections) will give us access to cheap Iraqi oil, which will help stimulate our economy AND Iraq's, and greatly reduce our dependency on Saudi oil, enabling us to cut them loose economically. Then we will see how long the sheiks stay in power when their oil revenues dry up.

Overthrowing Saddam will also allow us to remove our troops from Saudi soil, which seems to be one of the main beefs of al Qaida (not that it will make much difference in their desire to kill us all).

Kevin

[Wombat]

will give us access to cheap Iraqi oil, which will help stimulate our economy AND Iraq's,

...and piss off Russia. Part of the reason that the Security Council is so tough right now. Then again, we've been the pain in the ass many times, vetoing resolutions about Israel.

How dependent do you think we are on Saudi oil? Sure, they export a lot, but America produces almost half of what it consumes (44%). The remainder is covered by Mexico, Saudi Arabia, Venezuela, and Canada, and they chunk that up fairly well amongst the four.

The sheiks won't suddenly stop making money off of oil. There's always other customers.

[Joel]

The sheiks won't suddenly stop making money off of oil.

That may be so but we can put a big bent in what they do get.

Since we still have some people who want to believe that this war with Iraq is all about oil and not security for a free world let's us Americans ban together and stop supporting those companies that do import ME oil and show we don't need it.

Major companies that import Middle Eastern oil (for the period 9/1/00 - 8/31/01).

Shell................ 205,742,000 barrels
Chevron/Texaco....... 144,332,000 barrels
Exxon /Mobil......... 130,082,000 barrels
Marathon............. 117,740,000 barrels
Amoco................ 62,231,000 barrels

If you do the math at $30/barrel, these imports amount to over $18 BILLION!

Here are some large companies that do not import Middle Eastern oil:

Citgo 0 barrels
Sunoco 0 barrels
Conoco 0 barrels
Sinclair 0 barrels
BP/Phillips 0 barrels

All of this information is available from the Department of Energy and can be easily documented. Refineries located in the U.S. are required to state where they get their oil and how much they are importing. They report on a monthly basis.

Joel

[KRSESQ]

Got that link, Joel? I want to see what they say about Tesoro. They just bought a local refinery from Amoco.

Never mind, I think I found it. 299,000 barrels in 2001. Conoco imported 1,572,000 barrels in 2001. Neither shows any imports from the region for 2002, as of June.

http://www.eia.doe.gov/oil_gas/petroleum/data_publications/company_level_imports/cli.html

Kevin

[KvHagedorn]

doesn't leave a whole lot of gas stations to buy from around here