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  • Matrox remote, Virtualdub or what to capture?

    Hello.
    I've managed to get hold of a Rainbow Runner G for my G400 (I bought from ebay in the us therefore don't get any TV, it's not PAL but NTSC) but as I only need it for capture it's fine and was a bargain.
    I was using the Matrox for capture under Win98se and although was reletively happy with the results wonder if by using third party software could improve the digital file output.
    I'm only recording clips of ten minutes or so (taken of my son with a camcorder) so don't have the restriction of cramming it all on a 700mb cd-r.
    Could people recommend another capture package, and more importantly a codec which might give better results?
    I figure I'm using the codecs installed by matrox, but I'm not even sure I even know what a codec actually is
    Also, would a second hard drive, purely for capture, be a benefit?
    Many thanks,
    Will
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    G400 Matrox
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    Last edited by Will Hay; 10 October 2002, 08:28.
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    Windows XP, SP1
    Elite K7S5A
    AMD Athlon XP2000+
    Matrox 32mb G400 Dual Head (682.016 display package) *not* in my father-in-law's machine
    Matrox Rainbow Runner G Series Capture Card (628 display driver and vt155e video tools) *not* in a box in the study
    Primary IDE Master: IBM Deskstar 40GB GXP
    Secondary IDE Master: Panasonic LF-D311 DVD-R Burner
    Secondary IDE Slave: Lite-On 16102b (x16x10x40) Burner
    Primary IDE Slave: Toshiba 105 DVD-Rom Drive
    2 x Maxtor 80gb D740X on RAID 0
    512mb SDRam PC133 Memory
    SB Live 1024 Soundcard (driver 4.06.656)
    ADSL EA900 USB Modem
    ...........ATI Radeon 64mb DDR ViVo *not* installed in place of my trusty old G400

  • #2
    I should add I'm now using Win XP, not Win98se.
    I use TPGEnc to convert from .avi to .mpeg and then Ulead Movie Factory to output to vcd/cd-r for my family to watch on the dvd player.
    Will
    --
    The trouble with democracy is every stupid b*****d get's a vote
    --
    Windows XP, SP1
    Elite K7S5A
    AMD Athlon XP2000+
    Matrox 32mb G400 Dual Head (682.016 display package) *not* in my father-in-law's machine
    Matrox Rainbow Runner G Series Capture Card (628 display driver and vt155e video tools) *not* in a box in the study
    Primary IDE Master: IBM Deskstar 40GB GXP
    Secondary IDE Master: Panasonic LF-D311 DVD-R Burner
    Secondary IDE Slave: Lite-On 16102b (x16x10x40) Burner
    Primary IDE Slave: Toshiba 105 DVD-Rom Drive
    2 x Maxtor 80gb D740X on RAID 0
    512mb SDRam PC133 Memory
    SB Live 1024 Soundcard (driver 4.06.656)
    ADSL EA900 USB Modem
    ...........ATI Radeon 64mb DDR ViVo *not* installed in place of my trusty old G400

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    • #3
      Not sure if you are interested, but I really like taking my videos and converting them to Divx. I can get some decent looking movies, up to an hour packed into about 30 MB size, and still good video and sound. If you want to archive for the best quality though stick with VCD, MPEG. I doubt many people can use the pure AVI as the size is way to big. And takes up way to much storage. There are plenty of threads archived here in these forums on what to do. Also wil bring up more info on Codecs, both free and paid. Best of all, most of these packages are free, and there are plenty of Demos to check them out and see what you like the best. Divx also can be made with slowerd processors. of course newer and faster would wil be much faster.
      Do a search in the forum for these keywords and ehck out the info and links in the posts.
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      • #4
        Thanks for the post.
        I started out with the DivX route, I created tonnes of movies and watched them either on my laptop, desktop or using the TV-Out facility.
        I've since moved onto vcd as I prefer the quality and need to watch them on my standalone dvd player in the living room.
        Plus, I've now mastered the menu creation process (Ulead Movie Factory) and am quite proud, being a novice, of what I've achieved.
        I'm now looking to increase the quality and need recommendations for a good codec.
        Thanks again,
        Will
        --
        The trouble with democracy is every stupid b*****d get's a vote
        --
        Windows XP, SP1
        Elite K7S5A
        AMD Athlon XP2000+
        Matrox 32mb G400 Dual Head (682.016 display package) *not* in my father-in-law's machine
        Matrox Rainbow Runner G Series Capture Card (628 display driver and vt155e video tools) *not* in a box in the study
        Primary IDE Master: IBM Deskstar 40GB GXP
        Secondary IDE Master: Panasonic LF-D311 DVD-R Burner
        Secondary IDE Slave: Lite-On 16102b (x16x10x40) Burner
        Primary IDE Slave: Toshiba 105 DVD-Rom Drive
        2 x Maxtor 80gb D740X on RAID 0
        512mb SDRam PC133 Memory
        SB Live 1024 Soundcard (driver 4.06.656)
        ADSL EA900 USB Modem
        ...........ATI Radeon 64mb DDR ViVo *not* installed in place of my trusty old G400

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        • #5
          Hi Will,
          I've done some VCD as are you doing.
          My little experience regarding tools and codecs can suggest you the following:
          I capture using VirtualDub in 1GB chunks (easy to handle for editing afterwords).
          I connect the Matrox Codec set to 352x288 fot VCD destination and 352x576 for SuperVcd.
          You have a relatevely fast PC, so you can test the capture using an external codec. I suggest you the Intel Indeo 5 (it has a fast compress feature, so you can have few lost frames). Download it from the Ligos site. It is free,
          Another choice is using PIC codec, which has a better compression quality respect the Matrox one. Unbelieveble but this one creates smaller files at the same resolution, respect Matrox.
          Once you have saved these AVI files, use TMPGEnc (the best choice for MPEG-2 to create SVCD) or found somewhere the Panasonic encoder for the best class MPEG-1.

          After the compression arrange your clip in Ulead Movie factory or just simply use Nero Menu to create a startup page in your Multimedia CD.

          Hope this helps you.

          Ciao

          Luigi

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          • #6
            Hello,
            I will try the Intel Indeo codec, many thanks.
            I think we're at a similar stage in video creation you and me!
            One other thing, I tried using TMPGEnc for svcd and received an error message that it had expired,yet vcd works fine.
            Can I install a new svcd template?
            Thanks again,
            Will
            --
            The trouble with democracy is every stupid b*****d get's a vote
            --
            Windows XP, SP1
            Elite K7S5A
            AMD Athlon XP2000+
            Matrox 32mb G400 Dual Head (682.016 display package) *not* in my father-in-law's machine
            Matrox Rainbow Runner G Series Capture Card (628 display driver and vt155e video tools) *not* in a box in the study
            Primary IDE Master: IBM Deskstar 40GB GXP
            Secondary IDE Master: Panasonic LF-D311 DVD-R Burner
            Secondary IDE Slave: Lite-On 16102b (x16x10x40) Burner
            Primary IDE Slave: Toshiba 105 DVD-Rom Drive
            2 x Maxtor 80gb D740X on RAID 0
            512mb SDRam PC133 Memory
            SB Live 1024 Soundcard (driver 4.06.656)
            ADSL EA900 USB Modem
            ...........ATI Radeon 64mb DDR ViVo *not* installed in place of my trusty old G400

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