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leech
12th September 2002, 15:54
linux drivers for Parhelia are now out, read 'em and weep :D

Leech

K6-III
12th September 2002, 16:43
beta 2D only.....but much better than VESA....

leech
12th September 2002, 16:49
Exactly. Though not so far.... I get major screen corruption in anything higher than 1280x1024, though I'm looking into that (I'm going to compile my own kernel to see if it helps. I'm using the 2.4.18-bf2.4 that comes with Debian Woody right now.)

Leech

WyWyWyWy
12th September 2002, 18:07
Anyone tried it with *BSD?

leech
12th September 2002, 18:43
Originally posted by WyWyWyWy
Anyone tried it with *BSD?

I was thinking about asking this, but had to work out my own problems, which I've now done. I've managed to get it working in 1600x1200. Nice, crisp clean display.

So *BSD users, try it out. Though probably you'll have problems with any resolutions higher than 1280x1024, I had to compile the mtx.o driver for the specific kernel, and it's to enable the bus-master.

Leech

WyWyWyWy
13th September 2002, 00:06
Originally posted by leech


I was thinking about asking this, but had to work out my own problems, which I've now done. I've managed to get it working in 1600x1200. Nice, crisp clean display.

So *BSD users, try it out. Though probably you'll have problems with any resolutions higher than 1280x1024, I had to compile the mtx.o driver for the specific kernel, and it's to enable the bus-master.

Leech

NICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks dude.
Time to get myself a P... oh no not yet, 64mb ain't out yet.

EDIT: Sorry disregard what I just said :( Looks like it uses a Linux specific kernel module...

Colin Morey
13th September 2002, 00:25
:( on the linux only kernel module, but w00000 on matrox finally releasing drivers, at least now i can schedule it into an upgrade,.. roll on november when i get to spend $BIGNUM on toys for myself :)

cRock
13th September 2002, 23:51
This linux specific kernel module crap just sucks for *BSD users. Why not use DRI and support all open source OSes????? I expected more from Matrox.

Greebe
14th September 2002, 00:14
Leech watch your mouth. As I stated before Wombat has his reasons (and rightfully so) for taking the stance he has.

Might I also ask... Dire.... why the stance?

leech
14th September 2002, 08:00
Originally posted by Greebe
Leech watch your mouth. As I stated before Wombat has his reasons (and rightfully so) for taking the stance he has.

Might I also ask... Dire.... why the stance?

Watch my mouth, uhm.... WHY? Greebe, you're constantly blabbering about something, and frankly I wish you'd make some sense. When you're talking about computer hardware stuff, you usually know what you're talking about, but apart from that you should just be quiet and let Wombat speak for himself. It's not like he's your bitch. I don't think Wombat is anyone's bitch. In fact I actually respect him very much. His posts are generally informative and useful. You on the other hand just keep telling people to watch it, and blah blah. And what's this "Dire.... why the stance?" What the hell does that mean? I was simply stating that Wombat had said that Matrox isn't supporting Linux anymore and I was saying that I think Matrox will come through, because Linux is getting bigger and bigger and the Hardware Manufacturers would be stupid not to support it (though I also say that they're stupid for not supporting all the *nix OSs, but that's just me, just because all I use is linux and windowsXP doesn't mean that's what everyone uses)

I'm tired of you saying "watch your mouth" or "watch it" Watch my ass, as I take a dump on your face. You blathering idiot. You've caught me in a bad mood, now I will finish this rant with a bit of advice on the part of these drivers.

if the mtx.o module doesn't load (yeah, that's the one that is kernel specific that compiles when you run 'sh install.sh') then you won't be able to go into resolutions higher than 1280x1024x24 without screen corruption. Now with my crappy luck, I decided to install Mandrake 9.0rc2 and lo and behold, now I can't get the mtx.o to load. I had it loading and working fine with Debian with the new 4.2.1 packages, but for the life of me I can't get it to work here. It keeps saying that libparhl.so isn't being loaded, even though it IS in /usr/lib/ So now I'm stuck in 1280x1024. In higher resolutions there is major corruption, and it makes the mouse disappear on about the 20 or so lowest pixels. This is rather annoying, since I have everything where it should be. So my next attempt to fix it is re-compiling the kernel myself, so hopefully that'll fix some problems.

(I think one of the causes of my problems in the first place is that Mandrake, in their infinite wisdom, has kernel-headers 2.4.18 for the kernel 2.4.19 that comes with 9.0rc2)

Leech

Edit: By the way, Greebe. I KNOW Wombat has his reasons. I asked him about them.

Greebe
14th September 2002, 08:16
Oh you poor blood thirsty leech, there are many things I say that unless you are truely clue'd in, won't have a flippin idea.

You were warnerd once before for this ridiculing behavour and now again. If you were ment to understand everything then you would know that you were part of the bigger picture, but you aren't.

Happy now? :rolleyes:

leech
14th September 2002, 09:42
Originally posted by Greebe
Oh you poor blood thirsty leech, there are many things I say that unless you are truely clue'd in, won't have a flippin idea.

You were warnerd once before for this ridiculing behavour and now again. If you were ment to understand everything then you would know that you were part of the bigger picture, but you aren't.

Happy now? :rolleyes:

Oh you pitiful soul. First off it would be clued, and flippin'. Second off, warned about what, and like you could do ANYTHING to me at all. Ridiculous behaviour, (another word you spelled wrong)considering I was asking Wombat why he felt the way he did, and all you did was tell me to watch it. Are you the mouth of Wombat now? If you were MEANT to understand me (or any human for that matter) then you'd actually read what people are saying and not put your own words into their sentences thinking that they said something they did not. As far as being part of the BIG picture, I know a lot more than you do. And no, I don't consider the BIG picture to have <i>anything</i> to do with Matrox, you, or these forums. After all, we all live in a minimal of three dimensions, but you apparently spend far too much time looking at a two dimensional display. As far as anything Matrox goes, I can make some good guesses, and so far it looks like they're going to support linux, wether it's open-source drivers or not. So do us all a favor and don't interject unless you're being helpful, don't go around and threaten other users of these forums.

Leech

Greebe
14th September 2002, 10:17
Whatever you say Kyle

leech
14th September 2002, 13:30
Originally posted by Greebe
Whatever you say Kyle

Ah, ye of little faith....

Leech

mutz
14th September 2002, 13:48
...Greebe kicks ass...

WyWyWyWy
14th September 2002, 17:59
Ok back to Linux driver...

Looks like Matrox had to be Linux specific because it had to use some of the features of linuxfb... (busmastering?)

Guess we *BSD users have to wait until FreeBSD 5.0 which *I think* it has in-kernel framebuffer support.

leech
14th September 2002, 20:57
Originally posted by mutz
...Greebe kicks ass...

Greebe smokes too much weed.

I agree, back to the linux driver comment, which Greebe had no useful information on.

I'm having problems getting the stupid driver working again. I wiped my linux harddrive twice yesterday, Debian is back on it. I don't know what crap Mandrake loads up at the beginning, so I decided to give Debian a shot again, which I had X working before (I just couldn't for the life of me get my printer going) What I had to do to get it working in Debian was I compiled a kernel 2.4.19 off of ftp.us.kernel.org and I had to enable busmastering in X, also I had to download the 4.2.1 packages that Branden made (http://people.debian.org/~branden) that dude kicks ass by the way! :D I'll work on it again today I think. Hopefully I don't lose all my hair over it. Anyone else have any luck so far?

Leech

albatorsk
14th September 2002, 21:12
Running Slackware with kernel 2.4.19 and XFree86 4.2.0. It just worked for me. No problems what so ever. Busmastering and HW cursor enabled, of course.

runderwo
14th September 2002, 23:51
OT, but what printer do you have? I'm sort of a self-proclaimed Unix printer maven.

leech
15th September 2002, 02:48
Originally posted by runderwo
OT, but what printer do you have? I'm sort of a self-proclaimed Unix printer maven.

I have a lexmark z52. I don't know why I couldn't get it to work, though I theorize it was due to using cups 1.1.15, which is in debian unstable. 1.1.16 is the newest (oh wait, I just looked on Cups.org and they say the newest is 1.1.15, but Mandrake 9.0 has 1.1.16... odd)

Leech

albatorsk
15th September 2002, 04:36
<SARCASM>
Who needs cups when there is LPRng, APSfilter and Ghostscript? ;)
</SARCASM>

No, seriously. I've never tried CUPS, but that's just because I've never had to. I have an Apple LaserWriter 630 Pro that I have connected to my server with appletalk/netatalk and LPRng. It's working absolutely great, but am I missing out on something? What would the benefits be to me if I switched to CUPS?

albatorsk
15th September 2002, 08:31
A dhcp.conf? Do you mean a dhcpd.conf? All it has to say is something like:



default-lease-time 7200;
max-lease-time 7200;

authoritative;

subnet 192.168.1.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 {
range 192.168.1.2 192.168.1.254;
option domain-name-servers 192.168.1.1;
option routers 192.168.1.1;
option broadcast-address 192.168.1.255;
default-lease-time 600;
max-lease-time 7200;
}


But that won't help you with your firewall rules. Take a look at them with "iptables -l" and check what's blocked and what's not.

leech
15th September 2002, 10:09
I like cups, easy to set up, has support for IPP and well hell, I don't know, I'm beat, and pissed off....

Apparently Mandrake 9.0rc2 is far too secure. It won't even let me ping or browse the net when I put on "Higher" security when I set it up. What's up with that? I put the NIC that the DSL goes through back into my desktop computer until I can figure out what else I can try. Anyone want to create a dhcp.conf file for me that'll work in Debian? Along with the settings for the NAT stuff? I gave up on that and decided to try to install Mandrake 9.0rc2. God, I hate windows....

Leech

leech
15th September 2002, 12:16
Originally posted by albatorsk
A dhcp.conf? Do you mean a dhcpd.conf? All it has to say is something like:



default-lease-time 7200;
max-lease-time 7200;

authoritative;

subnet 192.168.1.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 {
range 192.168.1.2 192.168.1.254;
option domain-name-servers 192.168.1.1;
option routers 192.168.1.1;
option broadcast-address 192.168.1.255;
default-lease-time 600;
max-lease-time 7200;
}


But that won't help you with your firewall rules. Take a look at them with "iptables -l" and check what's blocked and what's not.

Yup that's what I meant :D Speaking of firewalling rules, that's apparently why I was having such a pain in the ass getting my DSL working last night. Mandrake 9.0rc2 is WAY too secure for even my tastes. Everything is locked out, just about. SO I couldn't even use ping as a normal user!

Leech

runderwo
15th September 2002, 14:49
Have you tried the Lexmark driver set for it? There were some bugs in CUPS & Gimp-print relating to lexmark printers a while back. Using the Lexmark binary drivers may at least approach the problem from a different angle.

leech
15th September 2002, 19:23
I found a link somewhere on the net about cups 1.1.15 on debian having a problem, which matched mine perfectly, so it might just be a problem in the packages.

Leech