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  • Screw 0.13 micron!!!!!!

    They finally made the announcement

    I've been biting my tongue and sitting on my hands for some time now through all the 0.13 micron threads posted awhile ago.

    0.09 micron Plus!!

    Anyways, the first 0.13 micron Product run at our FAB yielded above expectations in less than 4 months after starting the initial short loop lots.

    0.09 micron Products....<FONT SIZE=4> Soon!!!<SUP>tm</SUP>...
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  • #2
    Nice! What advantage do you get with the smaller die size other than running cooler?



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    • #3
      Smaller die sizes dont seem to run cooler at all
      If there's artificial intelligence, there's bound to be some artificial stupidity.

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      • #4
        And to think that the old Pentium II were 0.3 microns...

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        • #5
          If it doesn't run any cooler what IS the advantage?




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          • #6
            Takes less space so production cost gets lower as you can get more cpus or whatever per waffer

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            • #7
              Technically, the smaller the die size the higher it can be clocked, because heat can dicipate much easier.

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              • #8
                When they shrink the die size they also increase the frquency.

                If they kept the same MHz frequency but kept shrinking the die that's when you'd notice a major decrease in temperature.
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                • #9
                  There's a difference between "run cooler" and "consumes less power". Smaller sizes dissipate more power/area, but the same design should take much less area on a smaller process, ALL other things being equal.
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                  • #10
                    Ahhh, that makes sense, I suppose. Thanks guys!
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                    • #11
                      Hey, cool they actually said Hillsboro instead of Portland
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                      • #12
                        aren't we forgetting something? won't more chips per wafer mean lower production costs, higher retail costs, and more profit for intel share holders? (sorry to be the cynical bastard )
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                        • #13
                          Why higher retail costs?
                          Yes, lower production costs, eventually (depending on yield).
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                          • #14
                            I think he means higher profit margins on the chips...

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Wombat
                              Why higher retail costs?
                              Being cynical myself - Because any technological advantage over a competitor can be used by the marketing department to boost sales?
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