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  • M$ presses Intel to adopt AMD's x86-64 instruction set

    Furthermore, the OS developer advised Intel to comply with x86-64 if the Santa Clara, California-based chipmaker desired ongoing 64-bit support.

    "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind." -- Dr. Seuss

    "Always do good. It will gratify some and astonish the rest." ~Mark Twain

  • #2
    note: If you're accessing this link after today, scroll down to the April 23rd news.

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    • #3
      Ha ha ha. So much for the "Wintel" theory.

      It isn't surprising though. Looking at it historically, Intel has pretty much been blindly changing things whenever they bloody well feel like it, effectively crippling the competition. Now AMD and Co. have devised a "standard", and Intel will have to follow it.

      Sucks to try to milk the last generation when your competition is forging ahead.

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      I would still get screwed

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      • #4
        So will this be starting the "AMdows" theory? Or what about "Wind-AMD?"



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        • #5
          It's all bullshit.
          Gigabyte P35-DS3L with a Q6600, 2GB Kingston HyperX (after *3* bad pairs of Crucial Ballistix 1066), Galaxy 8800GT 512MB, SB X-Fi, some drives, and a Dell 2005fpw. Running WinXP.

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          • #6
            Can you be a little more specific?

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            • #7
              Main Entry: 1bull·shit
              Pronunciation: 'bul-"shit also 'b&l-
              Function: noun
              Etymology: 1bull & 6bull
              Date: circa 1915
              usually vulgar : NONSENSE; especially : foolish insolent talk

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              • #8
                It's all nothing but rumour.
                There is nothing at all to say MS have any intention of creating 64bit Windows for the AMD Hammer.
                Sure it makes sense if they do so, but there are no official words on this at all.

                At this current time AMD are going to release their all singing, all dancing 32/64bit hybrid CPU only to find the only Windows OS that will run on it will be 32bit.
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                • #9
                  c't confirmed that MS has the x86-64 version of XP already in the works (or nearly finished? I forgot...), and Jerry Sanders confirmed that he only appeled before court to speak in favor of MS as a favour, and that Billy would do him a favor too - c't has internal email which confirms this. (And c't is a quite reliable source of info, though not always the first)

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                  • #10
                    Confirmation

                    Well, its confirmed now! Microsoft will suport AMD x86-64 Check this link!



                    Hope Matrox makes drivers that take advantage of these 64bit instrutions!

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                    • #11
                      Ya........ROFL!!!!!

                      An endorsement from Microsoft, if one comes, could raise some awkward questions for AMD. Jerry Sanders, AMD's chairman and chief executive officer, testified at the Microsoft antitrust trial last week at Microsoft's behest. The lawyer for the states suing Microsoft attempted to show that Sanders agreed to testify in exchange for Microsoft's support for Hammer.
                      The best news for you AMD fans is that Jerry Sanders is stepping down as CEO.

                      This is the "Dirtbag" that gave himself the huge pay increase while laying off employees a few years back.

                      Paul
                      "Never interfere with the enemy when he is in the process of destroying himself"

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                      • #12
                        An endorsement from Microsoft, if one comes, could raise some awkward questions for AMD. Jerry Sanders, AMD's chairman and chief executive officer, testified at the Microsoft antitrust trial last week at Microsoft's behest. The lawyer for the states suing Microsoft attempted to show that Sanders agreed to testify in exchange for Microsoft's support for Hammer.

                        Intel’s lawyers would be jumping on this like stink on dodo.
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                        • #13
                          Shareholders have also complained about the size of Sanders' paycheck. He regularly makes more than Intel CEO Craig Barrett, but AMD's revenue is one-seventh that of Intel, and 2001 earnings, excluding acquisitions, were less than 1 percent of Intel's profit.
                          For Sanders, regal trappings come with the job. He keeps mansions in Los Angeles, San Francisco and Malibu, Calif., and a chauffer drives him from San Francisco to AMD's headquarters in Sunnyvale, according to sources. While rival Andy Grove, chairman of Intel, works in a cubicle, Sanders' office has marble floors and a private bathroom, sources say. Sanders' 2001 compensation included $465,000 for the use of company vehicles and planes.
                          AMD also fostered a close identification with its founder. Sanders has appeared fairly regularly in employee literature--as Indiana Jones and the drummer in the "Spirit of '76" painting, as well as, occasionally, himself. In addition to the marble bust, the AMD corporate lobby has featured a painting of Sanders as a medieval king.
                          "The first thing you saw when you walked into the lobby (in the mid-'80s) was good King Jerry with a lance on a horse," said Mike Feibus, a consultant running Feibus Strategic Consulting, recalling the medieval theme.

                          Category ..................AMD............Intel
                          2001 market share...20.2%..........78.7%
                          2000 market share..16.7%...........82.2%
                          2001 revenue.........$3.9 billion....$26.5 billion
                          2001 earnings........$28.9 million..$3.4 billion, excluding acquisitions
                          2001 CEO pay........$3.5 million....$1.9 million and 484,000 stock options



                          Time to Hit the Road Jerry, and don't let the Limo door hit ya on your Arse on the way out....ROTHFLMAO!!!!

                          Maybe AMD's profit margins will go up a bit


                          Paul
                          Last edited by ALBPM; 24 April 2002, 13:04.
                          "Never interfere with the enemy when he is in the process of destroying himself"

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                          • #14
                            Check out this some dude who was making $6 million and left coz jerry sanders was being racist to him. Man if they beat my ass with a metal pole i still wouldn't of left lol.

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                            • #15
                              I posted this to see what responce it would have here... then the Intel heads chimed in with everything but some of the most basic and fundimental of facts... where was Intel when AMD released the Athlon? Why did they choke horribly? Why did they resort to the strong arm tactics threatening all MB suppliers to play down their support for a competitors product? And most significantly why did they pull the supreme bonehead of supporting only *cough*RAMBUS(t) memory *cough*?

                              Lest not forget all the money shuffling from other divisions to prevent their stock holders from knowing the real impact of this competition?

                              I concede that what ALBPM has done for them (why are P4's capable of being clocked as high as 4gHz reciently... ALBPM! has put Intel's cpu's back on the market from near consumer market collapse, but they most certainly don't have a more intelligent cpu design... shame you can't help them in that department Paul

                              .....

                              One last rib... why are virtually all the BBz buying XP's and not P4's

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                              "Always do good. It will gratify some and astonish the rest." ~Mark Twain

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