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Amiga Blitter
13th April 2002, 09:51
i've tried to play some recent games (jedi knight outcast - medal of honor) but i can't get decent frame rate.

Please Matrox, give us the tech spec. and the release date.
:D

Parhelia Pro256
13th April 2002, 10:19
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Cobos
13th April 2002, 10:34
Interesting....so acording to what you are hinting at Parhelia Pro256, Matrox will announce their card on a sunday ??? That sounds wierd ?

Cobos

Jammrock
13th April 2002, 14:46
Running Dungeon Siege at 1024x768x32 I average 27 fps. WHen tons of stuff is on the screen....6-7 fps. And that's with a Kyro II. I can't even imagine what it would be like on a G400.

Jammrock - needs a Parhelia for Dungeon Siege and WarCraft III.

MetalCartman
13th April 2002, 15:33
/me needs a Parhelia for Comanche 4 :D :rolleyes: :mad: :eek: :) :D :D :D

impact
13th April 2002, 15:47
blah blah... buy a geforce if you want to play games...

Hyp-X
13th April 2002, 16:14
Originally posted by Jammrock
Jammrock - needs a Parhelia for Dungeon Siege and WarCraft III.

Actually you'd better get a faster CPU to improve your WC3 speed. It matters more than the videocard.

I agree in the case of DS though.

K6-III
15th April 2002, 09:35
Moving upto an Athlon XP with that KyroII would roughly double your framerates.

Wombat
15th April 2002, 16:41
Leave it to impact to have a totally vacuous statement.

Some people prefer Matrox cards. Many more will prefer them when they are fast, fast, fast.

blah blah.

Jammrock
15th April 2002, 21:35
I'd love to upgrade the CPU and mobo, but my money has gone elsewhere lately...ahem... ... ...damn income taxes.

Jammrock

Wombat
15th April 2002, 22:02
Not me man. My moving allocation was taxed at bonus rates. Between that and my college tuition and loans, I get half of my withholding back :)

Dr Mordrid
16th April 2002, 00:19
We scored over $5K back this year, so new toyz are on the way :D :D

Dr. Mordrid

Sasq
16th April 2002, 00:39
Bah I've just started working full time again, going to be a few months before i even get my backlog of bills outa the way

Jammrock
16th April 2002, 06:13
The IRS took another $100 off me this year, despite contributing to the loss of 25% of my income during the regular year (yes, yes, I know 25% is nothing to you Socialists...). The State of Kansas took a big ol' stick and beat over $200 extra off me.

Bumper sticker seen in the US around tax time:

Please don't steal, the governement doesn't like competition.

Jammrock

Dr Mordrid
16th April 2002, 06:54
Time to increase your withholdings....or start dumping some bux into an IRA/401k to make it untaxable and/or move you into a lower bracket.

Dr. Mordrid

Wombat
16th April 2002, 10:23
I think Jammrock has it just about right. I don't really like getting a large refund - it means my witholding was way too high, and I missed out on the chance to invest some money, or even just let it sit in a savings account.

The two best strategies seem to be:
1. Get your witholding as close to taxes as possible, as Jammers has done.
2. Don't do any withholding, but invest/save money on your own, and plan on making a lump sum payment to the IRS.

I'm considering starting the latter.

impact
16th April 2002, 11:32
C'mon... I'm in the same boat as Amiga Blitter... playing Q2 in 640x480 to get some decent framerates from Matrox' latest decent offering, the G400, on a 17" monitor....

TdB
16th April 2002, 11:49
Originally posted by impact
C'mon... I'm in the same boat as Amiga Blitter... playing Q2 in 640x480 to get some decent framerates from Matrox' latest decent offering, the G400, on a 17" monitor....

what do you consider to be decent framerates?? :confused:

IIRC i got around avg 100fps in 800*600*32, and that was with trilinear filtering enabled. Iīm not trying to start a big discussion, just wondering...

it is a long time since i used my g400max for gaming, so my benchmarks could be way off, is the speed deference between the g400 and the g400max really that big??

I care alot about framerates too,(especially in first person shooters) but quake2 is one of the games where i didnīt have to go lower than 800*600*32.

GNEP
16th April 2002, 11:51
And Half-Life plays quite well on a G450 actually. 1024x768, everything turned on, can't complain!

of course, that is a game from the same era as the g400...

gnep

Dr Mordrid
16th April 2002, 12:31
I don't have them over-withhold. It's all from various tax credits.

Dr. Mordrid

Evildead666
17th April 2002, 02:20
My G400 could do half life fine too, but its a 16bit color game...

Q2 should run well tho...
i played Daikatana at 800x600x32 with most of the bells and whistles, there was an odd jerk here and there (large outdoor spaces) but really good.
the image quality was outstanding.

I melted that card by accident, and now i have a very poor G550.
I have tried to play games, but it seems worse than with the G400.

impact
17th April 2002, 02:58
Yes the card isn't performing that bad(max over 100 fps, avg. about 60 fps with the occasional drop to 30 fps when all the hell breaks loose), but I have to disable every option that can be disabled (no minimap/scanner, no 16/32bit textures, no shaders, no stencil-buffered shadows, no transparency, no nothing...). Is it smooth? Yes. Is it fugly? You bet!

TdB
17th April 2002, 06:41
Originally posted by impact
Yes the card isn't performing that bad(max over 100 fps, avg. about 60 fps with the occasional drop to 30 fps when all the hell breaks loose), but I have to disable every option that can be disabled (no minimap/scanner, no 16/32bit textures, no shaders, no stencil-buffered shadows, no transparency, no nothing...). Is it smooth? Yes. Is it fugly? You bet!

ohh!
you meant quake 3 arena!
that explains it, i thought you meant quake 2. :rolleyes:

Pace
17th April 2002, 07:35
Originally posted by TDB
ohh!
you meant quake 3 arena!
that explains it, i thought you meant quake 2. :rolleyes: Silly person, it's obvious that Quake3 was the game in question, what made you think otherwise? :rolleyes:

P.

TdB
17th April 2002, 07:55
Originally posted by Pace
Silly person, it's obvious that Quake3 was the game in question, what made you think otherwise? :rolleyes:

P.

well, i had just played some quake2 when i read that post, and i am a bit silly sometimes... :p

Pace
17th April 2002, 07:58
Well, I wasn't confused in the slightest, and I've just been playing UT2002! :p

Novdid
17th April 2002, 10:39
That Jedi Knight 2 game is just wonderful in multiplayer.

Light sabre fights here I come!!!

Rags
17th April 2002, 12:04
No, he said Q2---that's Quake2, and if he has problems playing Quake2 (or even Quake3 for that matter) on his current card...well, there is something else wrong.

Rags

Pace
17th April 2002, 12:44
We know Matt, just humouring the Rt Hon Impact :)

P.

impact
18th April 2002, 03:26
Yes, it's very funny. Your ignorance that is. The spring is coming, it must be the sun killing your braincells again. :P

Seriously, Quake2 source code was released a while ago and custom gl libs are everywhere now. Q2 has finally entered the 21st century. Too bad the 20th century Matrox hardware can no longer take it.

Joe DeFuria
18th April 2002, 06:23
Slightly OT:


The two best strategies seem to be:
1. Get your witholding as close to taxes as possible, as Jammers has done.
2. Don't do any withholding, but invest/save money on your own, and plan on making a lump sum payment to the IRS.

I'm considering starting the latter.

I'd go with number 1. (That what I do). The problem with number 2 is, it's illegal. ;)

Legally you can NOT "exempt" yourself from withholding...you owe income tax as you pay it. If the amount you owe when you file your tax return is too high, you will be assessed penalties for not "paying as you earn."

HOWEVER, there is a sort of "loophole". (Isn't there always when it comes to taxes?) The IRS considers all payroll witholding reported on the W2 as "paid as earned" through the year. So, you can essentially not pay any withholding for like 10-11 months. But then say, in your last two or three paychecks, request large amounts to make up for it by filling out new W-4 forms. It's sort of like paying a lump-sum to the IRS, you're just doing it a couple months earlier via payroll withholding....