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  • Win XP VS Win2K

    hwy all,

    now that i have fixed the new 80GB drive, updated my mobo from P2B to P3B-F ... i'm ready to reformat my HDD i'm wondering whether i should go for winxp professional... ? I just installed it on my old PII machine and it does seem a bit slower than usual... that is with all the fancy GUI stuff turned off or set to performance...

    what do you think, win2k or winxp for digital imaging and NLE... ?
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  • #2
    Hi dizzynoodle

    Dont know if you are still running that problematic HP12 writer of yours in combination with ECDC5 - if you are, take a look at

    Lawrence

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    • #3
      hey LVR,

      not quite sure what i benifit from it running on win2k... or are u recommending a solution if i go XP...

      what have u done with your combo ?
      Asus P2B @ 100Mhz
      PIII 800 / 133Mhz running @100MHZ = 600MHZ!!! VIA Asus Slotkey
      SimpleTECH 128MB X 3/ 100Mhz
      IBM 9.GB Ultrawide Scsi LVD
      IBM 18gb secondary drive @ 7200
      Maxtor 37GB storage drive @ 5400
      Marvel G200 TV
      Microtek E6 scanner via scsi card {adaptec 1502}
      HP CD12ri CDRW 12X10X32 BurnProof!
      Creative Infra48 CD ROM
      Creative AWE64 Gold [ISA]
      Realtek Chip NIC 10/100
      21' Samsung Syncmaster 1000p
      Firewire card
      Mini USB hub
      8 port Compex 10/100 hub
      Sandisk Reader - USB
      Cordless Logitec Mouse
      Iomega Zip100 [the old ugly one!]
      HP 1220 C - A3 printer

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      • #4
        I gave up waiting for both Ahead and Roxio to announce support for the darn thing. Packed it up, returned it, got an Yamaha CRW2100E in exchange - support available immediately and no hassles under both W2K and XP.

        (I now suddenly find the HP12 models to be no longer available here either - maybe that is why the guys were holding out?)
        Lawrence

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        • #5
          Win2k seems alot more stable. I've two computers with XP on and both crash at times while they worked happily under win2k.
          Two others who've also tried Xp also have reported crashing so I'd wait for the outcome of the first service pack.
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          • #6
            Running just as stable as W2K on my rig though.

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            • #7
              XP is substantially faster and more stable.

              Any decreased speed you are seeing is due to one of the following things:

              1. Extra services. Go into service manager and turn 'em off if you don't need 'em. Do you REALLY need the portable audio device manager service? I mean, who in god's name actually uses Media Player to manage their device? There are LOTS of services in there that do nothing for you. You can turn off about half of 'em.

              2. Crappy drivers. Check and see if there are XP-specific drivers for your hardware. Video card companies are playing catch-up, their drivers are often to blame for inferior speed.

              3. Graphical doo-dads. Even with WinXP drivers, few video cards support all the blending and fading effects of XP, forcing the processor to do all the work. Additionally, drop shadows alone can KILL performance.

              4. System Restore. It's ugly, it's huge, and it only helps during setup. Once your hardware and major programs are all installed, turn it the hell off.

              5. Remote management crap. Turn off the services, turn off the features, and you'll not only run faster - you'll be MUCH more secure!

              Ok, that's all I could think of off the top - but once your machine is tweaked up... XP is FASTER than Win2k. I/O speed is improved, as is the driver model.

              - Gurm
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              • #8
                Well in my case and my friends it isn't more stable thats one upgrade and three clean installs. I had a nice time spamming microshaft with error reports today. Well XP did keep asking me to send the system errors in.
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                • #9
                  Mayby the question is:

                  Wich OS is most stable "out of the box"?

                  All OS'ses can be tweaked into "rock" stability!

                  (Even Compaq's!!

                  I'l guarantee that with enough cement it wont budge... )

                  My first encounter with XP was terible!

                  Reboots like hell!
                  Last edited by Technoid; 12 November 2001, 14:26.
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                  • #10
                    Win2k hands down. XP even buggered my win2k dual boot system up even though I stuck it on a seperate partition. Poor win2k has been unhappy since.
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                    • #11
                      how does one completely disable:

                      the remote managment facility ?
                      other performance hogging features on XP ?
                      Asus P2B @ 100Mhz
                      PIII 800 / 133Mhz running @100MHZ = 600MHZ!!! VIA Asus Slotkey
                      SimpleTECH 128MB X 3/ 100Mhz
                      IBM 9.GB Ultrawide Scsi LVD
                      IBM 18gb secondary drive @ 7200
                      Maxtor 37GB storage drive @ 5400
                      Marvel G200 TV
                      Microtek E6 scanner via scsi card {adaptec 1502}
                      HP CD12ri CDRW 12X10X32 BurnProof!
                      Creative Infra48 CD ROM
                      Creative AWE64 Gold [ISA]
                      Realtek Chip NIC 10/100
                      21' Samsung Syncmaster 1000p
                      Firewire card
                      Mini USB hub
                      8 port Compex 10/100 hub
                      Sandisk Reader - USB
                      Cordless Logitec Mouse
                      Iomega Zip100 [the old ugly one!]
                      HP 1220 C - A3 printer

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Gurm
                        XP is substantially faster and more stable.

                        Any decreased speed you are seeing is due to one of the following things:

                        1. Extra services. Go into service manager and turn 'em off if you don't need 'em. Do you REALLY need the portable audio device manager service? I mean, who in god's name actually uses Media Player to manage their device? There are LOTS of services in there that do nothing for you. You can turn off about half of 'em.

                        2. Crappy drivers. Check and see if there are XP-specific drivers for your hardware. Video card companies are playing catch-up, their drivers are often to blame for inferior speed.

                        3. Graphical doo-dads. Even with WinXP drivers, few video cards support all the blending and fading effects of XP, forcing the processor to do all the work. Additionally, drop shadows alone can KILL performance.

                        4. System Restore. It's ugly, it's huge, and it only helps during setup. Once your hardware and major programs are all installed, turn it the hell off.

                        5. Remote management crap. Turn off the services, turn off the features, and you'll not only run faster - you'll be MUCH more secure!

                        Ok, that's all I could think of off the top - but once your machine is tweaked up... XP is FASTER than Win2k. I/O speed is improved, as is the driver model.

                        - Gurm
                        where do you disable all these things? i mean where is the service manager? i have disabled sys restore and remote stuff from sys properties but where's the other stuff?
                        --
                        TJ

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                        • #13
                          Windows XP worked better for me, even with my low-end system. Everything that keeps me away from W9x kernel is good.

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                          • #14
                            mrtj1, press Crtl+Alt Del and go to the tab "processes".

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                            • #15
                              To disable them completely, select "Run..." and type in "services.msc". Then set everything you don't need to "Disabled" startup, and things you seldom need to "Manual" startup. I'm a "performance freak" myself, so I have gone back to the Win2K desktop Here's my XP system after some tweaking (click on the desktop for a larger image):
                              <a href="http://koti.mbnet.fi/~sampokoo/misc/XP.gif" target="_new"><img src="http://koti.mbnet.fi/~sampokoo/misc/XPsmall.jpg"></a>

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