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  • Have you changed your mind a bout "W"?

    I was just wondering if all of you "Bush bashers" have changed your mind.

    When the election was all up in the air and then shortly after there were a lot of bad things said about GWB. So, do you still think he is a bumbling moron that is incapable of running the country?

    Just curious.
    Last edited by Pneumatic; 7 October 2001, 16:44.

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    im getting sick of all the sound bytes... it as if hes a t.v commercial

    but I digress I think osama had the misfortune to do this while a Republican was in office and a Texan at that!! I think Bin Laden is SOL
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    • #3
      I think most Democrats would have done much the same thing.

      As a lefty Democrat, I'd like to answer this carefully and in a non-partison, non-ideological manner. I'd still be more comfortable with John McCain or George Bush, Sr. in the hot seat. I don't think Junior is the bubble head he's been portrayed as. In fact, I think he's proven himself a quick study and he demostrated that during the debates. However, this is the sort of situation Senior truly excelled at. I'm personally impressed with McCain's leadership skills. I wouldn't mind Bob Dole in this situation either.

      There. I left specific Democrats completely out of my response.

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      • #4
        They weren´t a rock band after all...

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        • #5
          Personally I think GWB is a moronic redneck! Hey! What a minute, I voted for him! OOps sorry about that first sentence.

          Between GWB and that stone faced tree hugger, I feel better about GWB being in charge. Firstly, GWB doesn't feel the need to take a poll before he begins any actions. Secondly, GWB does have Senior to call upon if needed.

          I am just glad that McCain has decided to come back into the party for this crisis. He has been stirring up a lot of problems for Bush. And I was worried that he may do the same here.
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          • #6
            He's still a moron. Even morons can end up on the right side of things every now and then. That doesn't change the fact that they are morons.
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            • #7
              He's still a moron. Even morons can end up on the right side of things every now and then. That doesn't change the fact that they are morons.
              And your opinion and judgement, as usual, is worth about as much as shit in the street.
              Last edited by KvHagedorn; 8 October 2001, 02:56.

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              • #8
                I said that I would not critisize him while the war was on.
                That does not prevent me from having a low opinion of those who would try to make partisan political hay out of a national crisis.
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                • #9
                  I can't say if Bush Jr. is a moron. I don't know him. He sure looks like one on TV, but carefull and slow pronounciation is not necessarily a sign of idiotism. Actually i think that Bush Jr. is doing OK, and he has the leisure to act slowly, unlike a democrat would have had. After all, we know that Bush Jr. is a gunslinger with little concern for human life. And having a rather competent Daddy is helping also. What bugs me more is that this tradegedy will probably win the re-election for him.

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                  • #10
                    Alright all, sorry for smacking Wombat with the verbal sledgehammer there. The fact that his judgement was as poor as Chuck's was wise just got to me. I hate politics, and I'm allergic to hay, so that's enough of that.

                    I just want to say a few things about George W. Bush. He was my Governor before he was my President, so, just as Kindness, I know he is an effective leader who is very good at getting things done. He is not the most eloquent off-the-cuff speaker, that's very true. This is an area in which Bill Clinton excelled. For those of us with a bit more age and wisdom under our belts, we know that one's level of glibness at every turn has nothing to do with one's capability as a chief executive nor should it be used as a measure of one's intelligence. How many of the people here, with our 150+ IQs, would look good when a microphone is stuck in his face? Not many, I'd venture to guess. That was Clinton's forte and is Bush's foible.

                    George W. Bush should be judged by his actions and his decisions. Look at the supremely competent cabinet he put together. Look at the steps he has taken in this crisis. I feel much more secure with a President who puts substance first and his own image second. He is doing very well, in my humble opinion.

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                    • #11
                      The thing is, I really hope he <B>isn't</B> putting substance first. He already has enough problems with controlled substances. And it looks like his daughters are learning the same lessons.

                      And, for the record, speaking ability has LOTS to do with being chief executive. It's called diplomacy. Every now and then, when I think about W being on the phone with the most powerful of world leaders, I shudder. Remember, this man didn't even know who was running Pakistan, and now we're depending on them for our Afghan operations.
                      Last edited by Wombat; 8 October 2001, 12:30.
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                      • #12
                        I won't voice my opinion till the fat lady sings

                        even then, I may not
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Wombat The thing is, I really hope he <B>isn't</B> putting substance first. He already has enough problems with controlled substances. And it looks like his daughters are learning the same lessons.
                          Oh ****ing get off of it. So the guy drank, so what? Do you know many people who don't? Christ, I drank plenty more than I should have when in college. Hell, I drank plenty during my divorce....
                          Of course, Bill Clinton can do similar actions and when anyone brings it up, it's always "What he does on his own time is his business" "consenting adults", etc. The big difference I see is that GW never lied under oath about his wrong doings...oops.



                          And, for the record, speaking ability has LOTS to do with being chief executive. It's called diplomacy. Every now and then, when I think about W being on the phone with the most powerful of world leaders, I shudder. Remember, this man didn't even know who was running Pakistan, and now we're depending on them for our Afghan operations. [/B]
                          Get something straight. Being good at speaches and being good at the gift of the gab are two different things. Even the media, as liberal as they are, agree that GW is light years ahead of our previous two presidents in the art of chatting with people head to head. Being uncomfortable with a teleprompter isn't a bad thing to smart people, it's only bad to superficial, shallow people.

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                          • #14
                            Drinking? Fine.
                            DUI: Not fine.

                            And I was actually focussing on the fact that he's a coke addict.

                            If the laws he supported and passed while Governor of Texas were in place while he was using, he would <B>still</B> be in jail according to the sentencing guidelines.
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                            • #15
                              Wombat, did you say the same about BillyBoy when he was the president? Oh yes, we all know, he didn't inhale...

                              Besides I think you should write "he was a coke addict" (even though having tried coke a few times doesn't make you a coke "addict" in my eyes)

                              Damn, I NEVER would've thought that one time I would be the one taking over the "liberal" part, esp. not when drugs are concerned....
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