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ruud vd merkt
5th June 2000, 07:34
Just asking..
Perhaps something for the statistics page??

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Jorden
5th June 2000, 09:03
Yes Martin, where is our weekly fastest update? Am I still in that top 10, maybe holding by the threshold http://forums.murc.ws/ubb/wink.gif

Goeie provider trouwens, Ruud http://forums.murc.ws/ubb/wink.gif Leuk, nog een Nederlander op de fori. Martin, 't wordt tijd voor een feestje. We zijn al met z'n vieren http://forums.murc.ws/ubb/smile.gif

Jord.

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"What goes up, must come down"

Ees
5th June 2000, 23:44
Sorry, I forgot, but here it is. The top 20 fastest seti@murcers for the past week (since May 30):

<TABLE BORDER=1><TR><TH>name</TH><TH>wus</TH><TH>hours</TH><TH>average</TH></TR><TR><TD>Rags</TD><TD>45</TD><TD>93.35</TD><TD>2h 4m</TD></TR><TR><TD>Manex</TD><TD>63</TD><TD>187.45</TD><TD>2h 59m</TD></TR><TR><TD>cjolley</TD><TD>15</TD><TD>78.17</TD><TD>5h 13m</TD></TR><TR><TD>jms</TD><TD>63</TD><TD>350.64</TD><TD>5h 34m</TD></TR><TR><TD>giskard</TD><TD>52</TD><TD>296.03</TD><TD>5h 42m</TD></TR><TR><TD>Eye MD</TD><TD>25</TD><TD>143.80</TD><TD>5h 45m</TD></TR><TR><TD>Mark F.</TD><TD>106</TD><TD>613.62</TD><TD>5h 47m</TD></TR><TR><TD>KvHagedorn</TD><TD>63</TD><TD>378.11</TD><TD>6h 0m</TD></TR><TR><TD>Ackerot</TD><TD>24</TD><TD>145.86</TD><TD>6h 5m</TD></TR><TR><TD>Costas D</TD><TD>9</TD><TD>54.85</TD><TD>6h 6m</TD></TR><TR><TD>Jorden</TD><TD>11</TD><TD>67.17</TD><TD>6h 6m</TD></TR><TR><TD>sleepingdragon</TD><TD>7</TD><TD>43.72</TD><TD>6h 15m</TD></TR><TR><TD>cancer</TD><TD>5</TD><TD>31.33</TD><TD>6h 16m</TD></TR><TR><TD>CHHAS</TD><TD>26</TD><TD>169.22</TD><TD>6h 31m</TD></TR><TR><TD>Winwiz</TD><TD>67</TD><TD>438.30</TD><TD>6h 33m</TD></TR><TR><TD>Rolf Almekinder</TD><TD>6</TD><TD>40.10</TD><TD>6h 41m</TD></TR><TR><TD>Kosh</TD><TD>5</TD><TD>33.70</TD><TD>6h 44m</TD></TR><TR><TD>Guyver</TD><TD>38</TD><TD>262.98</TD><TD>6h 55m</TD></TR><TR><TD>Buuri</TD><TD>23</TD><TD>159.59</TD><TD>6h 56m</TD></TR><TR><TD>Guru</TD><TD>39</TD><TD>273.30</TD><TD>7h 0m</TD></TR></TABLE>

Martin

(Volgens mij is er trouwens nog een Nederlander, maar z'n nick is me ff ontschoten. Ik heb overigens een andere mening over wxs. http://forums.murc.ws/ubb/wink.gif)

CharlesWA
5th June 2000, 23:56
How about a "Top 20 Producers for the week"? My setup is such that I'll never even get close to being fast enough for this list (unless I ditch a couple of P-166's).

Of course if I'm the only one that think that might be interesting, don't worry about it.

Thanks,
Charles

Hecubus
6th June 2000, 00:30
I think it would be interesting...
It might even help promote some extra effort for our team's output, and we need every WU we can get. Those TA bastards http://forums.murc.ws/ubb/wink.gif (J/K about the bastard bit) are way too far ahead of us!

Tim

P.S. How do you do the "smiley face with tongue sticking out anyway?"

[This message has been edited by Hecubus (edited 06 June 2000).]

MegaManX4
6th June 2000, 01:02
That would be really interesting. But wait till Friday http://forums.murc.ws/ubb/smile.gif,hehe

Mega

cjolley
6th June 2000, 03:55
Oh sure, change the rules as soon a I finaly make the top 10! :P

How about both lists. Fastest & Highest Volume?

I don't have enough rights to run Seti though our firewall at work, so no WUs from there http://forums.murc.ws/ubb/frown.gif

chuck

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Ees
6th June 2000, 06:47
Well,

I've updated the murc-page (the others will follow, but not right now).

First change: there's a new column (at the right) showing "Total Delta WUs". This is more or less like the earlier suggestion (provide weekly delta's) except that it will just sum the delta's of the days shown. Err, you still there? Yes, well... It's a bit difficult to explain, but easy to understand. Have a look. http://forums.murc.ws/ubb/smile.gif

In addition, you can now sort in different ways:

- rank (default, the ways it's done currently)
- last delta (who produced the most WUs during the last day).
- total delta (who produced the most WUs during the days show on the page).

Have a look and tell me what you think.

Martin

Jorden
6th June 2000, 07:10
Oh nice, in Total Delta WU's I show last in the top 100 http://forums.murc.ws/ubb/smile.gif

Now all we need is the new color-scheme in the graphics, Martin. Even at the bottom (look at my name for instance) it's becoming very difficult to see who's where.

(Enne, ff kijken, jij, FaRaN, Ruud, Hunsow en ik... da's 5, goed? Die ander weet ik niet wat ie is http://forums.murc.ws/ubb/wink.gif)

Jord.

CHHAS
6th June 2000, 08:16
This is great Martin http://forums.murc.ws/ubb/smile.gif

Now I can actually get in the top 100 http://forums.murc.ws/ubb/smile.gif

Well, on the total delta list, but still ...

ruud vd merkt
6th June 2000, 10:31
Looking great but....... :-(

Internal Server Error
The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request.
Please contact the server administrator, admin@gagames.com and inform them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that may have caused the error.

More information about this error may be available in the server error log.


Leuk om te weten dat er meerdere oranje spelers ;-) zijn. Totaal nu dus 5 any more?? speak up..

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CharlesWA
6th June 2000, 11:15
I like that "total delta WUs" much better. That's good for me being third over the last 7 days. I knew there'd be some way to manipulate the statistics to get me near the top of some list! http://forums.murc.ws/ubb/smile.gif

Hey --<TO>-- you're my next target! Consider this fair warning!

Charles

Ees
6th June 2000, 12:11
Ruud,

What did you do to get the internal server error? Anything special?

Martin

Jorden
6th June 2000, 12:21
I checked 4 minutes after he posted that, MArtin, and I got on okay. Might be something to do with wxs, though, as I've had it as well, as you know.

And wxs does have problems with it's connection software the past few weeks.

Also a thing why I use Libertysurf now and then (although I got the fault using Libertysurf's free connection at the time)

Jord.

ruud vd merkt
6th June 2000, 14:52
martin:
Nope, i did nothing special. I checked again and it's fine now. I guess i'm doing rather well with only 3 pc's. Only problem i have: i'm always very low on recourses. I checked 31%... I have to find the leak.
B.T.W. I own my G400 Max end of july one year!!! Do i have to congratulate myself or is it time for something else? Gf. ehhhh G8.. ;-)


Jord.
Inbellen is inderdaad een beetje k*t de laatste tijd. WXS zegt het ligt niet aan ons maar aan anderen.... tja http://web.planet.nl/abonnees/servicelijn/mededelingen/
toch maar eens een alternatief ernaast gaan zoeken

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Jorden
7th June 2000, 14:56
As I emailed to Martin earlier, I had problems with the seti.matroxusers.com site again... Trying to get a Delta WU over the past 6 days, got me the dreaded Internal Server Error.

I thought it might be due to the fact that the software couldn't do this since 6 days ago, so I went back to 4 days, list 1-100, showing rank... Internal Server Error.

3 days? Internal Server Error...
2 days as in the original? Yeps, the error again... grrrrrrrrrr....
1 day then, please? That worked !!! Great !!! http://forums.murc.ws/ubb/frown.gif

I tested this in Netscape 4.73 at first, then started up IE5 on it's own, and tested again.

Same errors for all the pages if you went bigger than 5 the first time. In the end only 1 page, list 1-100, rank would show...

Weird?

Maybe something to look into, Ant & Martin.

Jord.

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Ees
7th June 2000, 23:46
Right,

I think I may have found the cause for the internal server error. If any of you still get one (on the murc-page, not the other two), please let me know (in here, or at ees@casema.net).

Martin

cjolley
8th June 2000, 10:36
How about three sortings.

1, Fastest (the current one)
2, Volume (the new request)
3, Hours (after all, this is the one that proves dedication)

chuck

Kruse
9th June 2000, 03:48
Regarding the "low on resources" thingy...

Seti (at least the CLI version) has a handle leak when running under Win98. It leaks about 1-2 handles pr. second on my machine so if it isn't stopped at least once pr. WU it will eventually slow your machine to a crawl...

Just thought I'd let you know.

ruud vd merkt
9th June 2000, 06:48
I do suspect that one. I have not done much with the computer but recourses down to 19% :-(

Any idea how to investigate (and stop) this leakage??

Annyone else with this problem??




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Kruse
9th June 2000, 15:49
Stopping and starting seti between each WU is ok for me... it still leaks a lot of handles, but not quite enough to slow my pc.

I haven't got a clue how to fix the leak, and I suspect it might be in Win98's NT virtual machine (yes, seti is run by an NT kernel in a virtual machine in Win98). There is no leaking on NT.

Assimilator1
10th June 2000, 10:33
Kruse

>>>>Seti (at least the CLI version) has a handle leak when running under Win98. It leaks about 1-2 handles pr. second <<<<

errm ,I've no idea what your talking about! http://forums.murc.ws/ubb/redface.gif

Could you enlighten me please? http://forums.murc.ws/ubb/smile.gif


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I guess I won't recruit for my team here ;) TA

Kruse
11th June 2000, 05:48
Hmm... TA needs help, eh? I guess this might get me kicked from MURC, but here goes anyway...

Get TaskInfo2000 if you don't already have it from http://www.iarsn.com/download.html#TaskInfo

Then start TaskInfo and select your Seti task (seti.exe or whatever you TA guys like to call it ;-) Then look at the handle count in the lower right corner... tick, tick, tick...

In case you don't know: Handles are pointers to various Windows resources. A handle leak means some resources are not deallocated correctly... But as I mentioned the bug is probably in the NT VM and not in seti.

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Assimilator1
11th June 2000, 13:01
Thanks Kruse ,its just for me 'cos I'm clueless about that kinda thing! http://forums.murc.ws/ubb/redface.gif

>>>>In case you don't know: Handles are pointers to various Windows resources<<<<

That's a start ,could you expand on that?

Thanks http://forums.murc.ws/ubb/smile.gif

(BTW I did already have taskinfo 2000 http://forums.murc.ws/ubb/smile.gif)

Kruse
13th June 2000, 06:06
Hmm... this could turn into "Windows Programming 101"...

A pointer is an address, right! (that's about as basic as I'm willing to get ;-)

Every time a program allocates an object it gets a pointer to that object. If the object is some kind of resource (window, document, brush, cursor, bitmap etc.) the pointer is called a handle.

If the program runs a loop like this:

Begin loop
Allocate a resource
Do something with it
Deallocate the resource *
End Loop

but forgets the step marked with a *, it has a handle leak. That means Windows thinks the program uses more and more resources even though it only uses one (or a few) at a time.

That's a major problem, especially in languages like C++ (which Windows itself is written in) because the programmer has to do all the accounting and remeber to deallocate all objects when they are no longer used.

Hope that enlightened you a little more Assim. But it's a vast subject, and I'm not really an expert...

If I'm wrong please correct me. And if anyone has a good url with more information, this thread would be a nice place to post it in ;-)