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    "Following are the specifics of how Microsoft wants hardware manufacturers to help it accomplish these goals.

    MEMORY


    At least 128MB of system memory, plus 32MB or 64MB (recommended) of video memory.
    START-UP AND POWER


    The system must not display any BIOS text during start-up and must meet these start-up times:
    Cold boot to desktop in 30 seconds or less.
    Resume from hibernate in 20 seconds or less.
    Resume from standby in 5 seconds or less.
    A sleep button on the keyboard suspends the PC.
    An off button on the front of the PC that hibernates the PC.
    A power-off button on the back of the PC.
    Laptop battery life must support playing a feature-length DVD or three hours of typical application use.
    DEVICE CONNECTIVITY


    The system includes at least four USB ports, with two on the front panel or keyboard for user convenience and two on the back of the PC. A built-in USB hub is recommended.
    The system includes at least two, and preferably three, IEEE-1394 FireWire ports for high-speed devices. Mobile devices need only one. Three are recommended for desktops, however, with one port on the back of the system unit.
    The system does not allow end-user access to expansion bus cards. This means users will no longer routinely open their PCs to add peripherals.
    GRAPHICS ADAPTER AND MONITOR


    Supports 3D DirectX 8.0 features.
    Graphics subsystem includes a digital video interface (DVI) connector, allowing the user to add a flat-panel display with the assurance of a good upgrade experience.
    Minimum 1024-by-768-pixel screen resolution; 1280 by 1024 is recommended.
    Monitor is a flat-panel display.
    Flat-panel display cable integrates USB and 1394 connections at the monitor for an uncluttered desktop.
    Monitor integrates other components, such as speakers, cameras, array microphone, USB hub, and so forth.
    NETWORKING AND COMMUNICATIONS


    The system includes a 10/100 Ethernet adapter that, for desktops, must include "Wake on LAN" capabilities.
    Microsoft would like DSL or cable modems to be available as options on build-to-order systems.
    DISK DRIVES


    High-performance hard drive, at least 40GB.
    CD-RW and DVD playback devices included. A combo drive is recommended. (I prefer systems with dual drives for easy dubbing.)
    ERGONOMICS


    A quiet PC, never more than 37 decibels, so the machine is welcome in kitchen, bedroom, and living room.
    No noise during any supported sleep state.
    Ultra-small enclosure.
    DIGITAL IMAGING


    Many of theses guidelines, like a powered USB hub, are included in other guidelines. Here are some of the others:
    Flatbed color scanner included with system.
    Photo-realistic printer included with system.
    USB Webcam included with system.
    AUDIO


    System includes two speakers and a subwoofer.
    System includes a microphone or headset for voice input.
    TV AND VIDEO


    HDTV tuner card included.
    Graphics subsystem includes TV-out capabilities. "

    The preceeding was taken from a ZDNet Article about MS's recommendation for it's ideal XP machine. The part in bold is bothersome to me. I don't think I want a machine like that at all. Of course that fits in with their intention to force registration, and to force reregistration on hardware changes. Not even Apple does that. If they persist with that kind of behaviour, then I'll probably switch to linux full time. Sure I won't be able to do some of the things I can with Windows but in time I'll be able to do most of them and will have learned more about computers in the process.
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  • #2
    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by DentyCracker:
    The system does not allow end-user access to expansion bus cards. This means users will no longer routinely open their PCs to add peripherals.
    </font>
    Yeah sure, and eliminate the only reason why the PC became a success in the first place. So, fear not, this will not happen

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    • #3
      <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Six Of One:
      Yeah sure, and eliminate the only reason why the PC became a success in the first place. So, fear not, this will not happen

      </font>
      Correction, it will happen, but only for certain models from certain manufacturers. The home built and upgradeable systems will continue to exist, but some people want their computers to be as complicated as their toasters.

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      • #4
        mmmmmmmmm toast....
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        • #5
          How about this recommendation for Microshaft.
          Operating system should be able to run on P66 with 8mb of Ram. Max harddisk space req no more than 50mb. Option to install without IE.
          Boot time for OS less than 10 seconds to the desktop including full access to applications.
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          • #6
            <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Operating system should be able to run on P66 with 8mb of Ram.</font>
            Then they better ditch WindowsXP because from what I heard it's minimum machine configuration is a 500MHz or better CPU with 128MB of RAM and a 32 to 64MB video card.

            Joel
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            Monitor: Cornerstone c1025 @ 1280x960 @85Hz.

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            • #7
              <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by agallag:
              Correction, it will happen, but only for certain models from certain manufacturers. The home built and upgradeable systems will continue to exist, but some people want their computers to be as complicated as their toasters.
              </font>
              Of course you are right. Actually i meant it that way, or so i think... duh

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              • #8
                Did you know Wind2k ADVANCED server says that it runs on a P133!! (albeit with 256mb) Then again, Win2k DATACENTER server requires a minimum of 8 processors! Talk about complete opposites...

                I've just installed win2k advanced on a PII-233 with 128mb, then installed active directory, exchange 2000 enterprise and SQL 2000 enterprise and now the machine CRAWLS along!

                I remember once at my secondary school I tried out having 1 server on a network of 6 or 7 486 sx25 PCs and running the other 5 or 6 machines off of it and now THAT crawled along (and the 'server' never recovered - it kinda got too stressed and died)

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                • #9
                  Hey, currently (I know it's a beta, but...) WinXP runs kinda doggy on MY machine, which is:

                  Dual P3-700@933
                  512MB PC150 CL2
                  IDE RAID (90GB)
                  G400

                  So that tells ya something.

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                  • #10
                    I'm running Win2k op a P166MMX with 128 megs.
                    Allthough it takes a mug of coffee to boot, it runs fine once it gets to the desktop.
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                    • #11
                      Gurm...

                      That's bloody scarey..........

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                      • #12
                        Yep it's definatley time for some anti bloat standards. How long is going to before the Min spec is a dual processor system?
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                        • #13
                          Gurm.. you're not alone. Was testing Winxp at work.. the thing is also a dog on our P933 system with 1gig of ram. Was better on the Athlon 1GHz with 1gig of ram, but still not what I'd call acceptable for the cpu speed.

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                          • #14
                            I think the recommended specs were 300MHz, dunno about the minimum. Win2k min was P133, hehe

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                            • #15
                              Yeah but we all know about Microsoft's minimum recommended specs. And wasn't it Bill Gates the owner of Microshaft that once said that we will never need more than 640KB of memory.

                              news.cnet.com/news/0-1003-200-5264345.html?tag=tp_pr

                              Their recommended minimum is 500MHz.

                              Joel

                              [This message has been edited by Joel (edited 30 March 2001).]
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                              System Specs: AMD XP2000+ @1.68GHz(12.5x133), ASUS A7V133-C, 512MB PC133, Matrox Parhelia 128MB, SB Live! 5.1.
                              OS: Windows XP Pro.
                              Monitor: Cornerstone c1025 @ 1280x960 @85Hz.

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