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paulcs
18th January 1997, 18:15
I thought cheesefood is what you feed your pet cheese.

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paulcs
18th January 1997, 22:18
Posts appear to be disappearing. I had to do a search for this one. I'm just testing to see if it will reappear.

Paul
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paulcs
18th January 1997, 22:19
Nope. I still can't get it to reappear in the Soap Box.

Paul
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Mr D. Ackerot
18th January 1997, 22:22
We are in the Soap Box, but we have gone back to 1997!

MadCat
30th May 2000, 11:20
Seriously...does anyone know the exact difference between Cheese and Cheesefood? Other than the fact that Cheesefood tastes like crap...

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Jorden
30th May 2000, 11:31
What is Cheesefood???

HollyBerri
30th May 2000, 11:42
Afaik, MadCat, cheese is, naturally, cheese... I trust I need not open the door to another discussion of cheesemaking on The 'Box http://forums.murc.ws/ubb/wink.gif.

But anyway, an natural product made basically with some kind of milk, salt and whatever else.

Cheesefood, though... by which I guess you mean 'American' cheese, CheezWhiz and Velveeta, is made I think from some cheese (as I understand it, old ends of other cheeses) as well as other flavorings, preservatives, colorings, and additives to keep it soft and pliable and change the melting properties.

It's similar, I believe, to "[fruit-flavored] juice drink", which is mostly water and sugar, with only a percentage of actual fruit juice, or spaghetti sauce "flavored with meat" (as opposed to "meat sauce")

Those products, at least, have laws relating to how much juice or meat they must contain before they can be labelled as "juice" or "meat sauce".

I guess it's the same with cheese.

Holly

Jorden
30th May 2000, 11:52
Reading what Holly wrote, I think someone never ate real cheese, and someone misses real cheese badly http://forums.murc.ws/ubb/wink.gif

Soon...

Jord.

PurpleHaze
30th May 2000, 11:58
More specifically there's cheese, and cheese food product. Note there won't be a "cheese food" but it will always be a "cheese food product".

A "food product" is an edible product that does not neccessarily fall into the same category as its origin...

Specifically a "food product" that is processed with esters, polymers (yes, polymers), oils, etc, to have an end product that is similar in taste, consistency and use as cheese, becomes a "cheese food product". But it is not, in fact, cheese. Cheese is the result of milk fermentation, etc... This isn't what happens in "cheese food product". *Science* happens in "cheese food product".

Another example is 'potted meat food product'. It serves the purpose of meat, yes, and is engineered (yes, engineered) to taste like meat, but it is not neccessarily meat as it will contain non-meat ingredients such as corn meal, plant fiber, agar, bone, cartilage, hoof, claw, (you think i'm kidding) and other 'non-meat organics' such as lung, bladder, etc. This makes it a "food product".

So basically you have to remember with a given "food product" such as "cheese food product", it is indeed food, it is certainly a product, but it is not neccessarily the food it is designed to resemble.

The best example, I think, is "imitation crab meat food product".

-amikofiz.



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HollyBerri
30th May 2000, 12:15
<center><font size=8 font color="purple">AMI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [big hug]</FONT></center>

Even if you <u>are</U> talking about "potted meat food product" [shudder.... and here I thought potted meat was already fake enough when it didn't have "food product" tacked on the end....]



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Jorden
30th May 2000, 12:33
<font size=8><font color="green">Hi Ami !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Kissssssssssssssssss</font></font>

Don't look at me, Holly http://forums.murc.ws/ubb/wink.gif

You said "Say Hi to Ami" http://forums.murc.ws/ubb/smile.gif

Jord.

Muad'Dib
30th May 2000, 13:24
<font color="red"><font size=8>IT'S ALL ABOUT THE REAL CALIFORNIA CHEESE!!!!</font></font>


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Got it right! http://forums.murc.ws/ubb/biggrin.gif

Hi Ami.

Dimitri

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JamesA
30th May 2000, 14:05
<font size="7" color="#FF3333">Oh. My. God. I am gonna <u>puke</u>!</font>

I think my wife should read this....

BTW, hi Ami!



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MadCat
30th May 2000, 15:00
Well then...guess I need to eat more CHEESE!

<font size=6>DOWN WITH CHEESEFOOD!</font>

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Himself
30th May 2000, 17:21
Reminds me of the "tea substitute" in hitchhikers guide to the galaxy. http://forums.murc.ws/ubb/smile.gif Wonder if you can have cheeze and no cheeze in your inventory at the same time. http://forums.murc.ws/ubb/smile.gif

Gurm
30th May 2000, 20:36
"Cheese Food", also known as "Kraft Singles", are Cheese... only instead of Milk they contain... get ready... VEGETABLE OIL.

EEEEEW!

They are to cheese what Margarine is to Butter. Similar flavors, completely different composition.

So there you go.

- Gurm

P.S. I almost forgot. Kraft's new marketing campaign for their cheese food is that they only use 2/3 vegetable oil... it has 1/3 milk! As opposed to the "leading brand", which uses ALL vegetable oil!

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Hunsow
31st May 2000, 02:29
Up

Date problem with the forum again.

Paddy
31st May 2000, 03:06
is it ok to post now?

merchant2112
31st May 2000, 09:45
I always avoid any food that has the word food product in it; (you just don't know what youíre eating.

Too many chemicals are bad too.

How come this is reminding me of the content of a McDonalds hamburger that is not really 100%beef but they can call it that because what it is all-protean?

Or the times some McDonalds distributors were caught shipping and severing kangaroo meat in with the beef (when they were using all beef witch they arenít doing now) any who my point is this just because it says one thing doesnít mean that's what your getting. (It isn't lying until they get caught and fined.)

Muad'Dib
31st May 2000, 09:54
What are you all worried about a little bit of bad food??? Has it been so long since you've eaten at a dorm!?! If it has, lemme know next time you're in town and I'll take you to mine. The "hamburgers" (while they taste good) are most definately made out of rat meat and then they put some sort of cheesefood on top of it for the "cheeseburgers...." http://forums.murc.ws/ubb/smile.gif

Dimitri

Gurm
31st May 2000, 13:02
It's the fake food that gets to me. And how the health advocates are always saying that you need to eliminate stuff from your diet.

Funny that margarine, which was supposedly SO GOOD for you, turns out to have such high amounts of trans-fatty acids that it'll give you a heart attack quicker than butter ever could.

Or that Nutrasweet causes brain damage and neurotransmitter malfunction.

And on another note... my wife has lost 25 pounds. How? Not by some fad diet or by eating fake food. Just by eating right and exercising.

Funny that the "nutrition" experts always include that as a caveat at the end, huh?

- Gurm

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Hunsow
31st May 2000, 13:29
Surely you mean nutrition "experts".

Paddy
31st May 2000, 14:48
Well Dimitri, at least you get fed at Uni.
I have lived on beasn and pasta for weeks now http://forums.murc.ws/ubb/frown.gif

- I cant wait 'till my better half starts cooking for mw http://forums.murc.ws/ubb/smile.gif

Jorden
31st May 2000, 15:04
Neem nog een Supradyn, Hunsow http://forums.murc.ws/ubb/wink.gif

Muad'Dib
31st May 2000, 15:27
Hey Pat, you mean at UCLA.... http://forums.murc.ws/ubb/wink.gif

I'm worried about next year living on my own. I think I'm going to be living on Cheerios with Beer! http://forums.murc.ws/ubb/smile.gif

To bring back the topic of cheese stuffs, we spent the entire lecture in anthro (human ev.) on the subject of lactose in/tolerance. I never could have cared that the fact that N. Europeans (who later migrated to America...) got the ability to eat/drink milk from the fact that they were wanderers from (anyone know this?)? I fell asleep during that part.... http://forums.murc.ws/ubb/wink.gif Hmmmm, what happened to me? Guess I was left out in that respect (not that I care as I have always hated milk)....

Dimitri

HollyBerri
31st May 2000, 17:03
Hey, Dimi, I don't care where they came from (Caucasus Mountains, afaik)... I just wanna know how "wandering" from wherever they did so from "gave them the ability to eat/drink milk"?

Does that mean that when I migrate to the Netherlands I'll suddenly gain the ability to eat head cheese http://forums.murc.ws/ubb/frown.gif? Or is my move too decisive for that, and I should pass by Finland first, then sorta zip back towards Greenland and sneak up on Holland from behind? http://forums.murc.ws/ubb/icons/icon2.gif

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Jorden
31st May 2000, 17:24
Someone forgot she ate head cheese with mustard?? Something I even shudder of??

Try it without the mustard next time and you might like it... http://forums.murc.ws/ubb/wink.gif

Jord.

Muad'Dib
31st May 2000, 19:33
Holly, according to my professor, the fact that they were nomads has nothing to do with it (sorry if I was unclear last time). It's more that milk was a very important part of their lives (not sure why though - maybe it's easy to carry??? - if someone know, tell me please - maybe when I read the chapter I can put more info into this) and they began to retain the ability to digest lactose. The trait is still apparent by the fact that most Americans/N. Europeans are able to consume lactose. Feel free to correct me med people http://forums.murc.ws/ubb/wink.gif if you know why/better this is the case....

Dimitri who doesn't know what he's saying, but it might be makin sense.... http://forums.murc.ws/ubb/biggrin.gif

BTW, should we bring the monster cheese thread up so we can add this to the history/evolution of man and cheese? http://forums.murc.ws/ubb/smile.gif

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motub
1st June 2000, 00:08
BTW, should we bring the monster cheese thread up

No, we should not.

But thanks for playing our game, there, Dimi... http://forums.murc.ws/ubb/icons/icon2.gif

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Muad'Dib
1st June 2000, 01:00
I was kidding.... http://forums.murc.ws/ubb/wink.gif

But now I am interested in the answer to your previous question, so I'll post back when I read the chapter.

In the meantime, back to the philosophy paper.... http://forums.murc.ws/ubb/frown.gif

Paddy
1st June 2000, 06:22
cherrios and beer.... http://forums.murc.ws/ubb/wink.gif