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paulcs
27th April 2000, 23:33
There's a nice big thread in General Hardware about the new video boards. Lot's of technical information and profanity. Maybe I'm having a mid-life crisis, but I want ALL of the new boards, and I just don't care about the specs. Let's face it:

The Voodoo5 is really really big. And it has *two* fans.

OK. The GeForce2 is tough, because there are so many different manufacturers, and I can't have them all. Now Creative Labs will have the coolest box, and that's an important consideration. However, the Guillemot Prophet II will have a blue PCB *and* blue heatsinks on the RAM. (Now, Guillemot admitted that the RAM won't be very overclockable, so I guess the heatsinks are there because they look nice.) And it has a round fan. Guillemot wins.

As for the Matrox G450, I just do the math. 450 is a higher number than 400. I'm a particularly easy mark when it comes to Matrox, and the extra 50 is enough for me.

Big boards. Blue PCB's. Fifty extra G's. These are the features I'm looking for. I want them all. http://forums.murc.ws/ubb/smile.gif

Paul
paulcs@flashcom.net

The PIT
28th April 2000, 00:52
I'm now waiting for a G1000 that has a very large number.

Rowan
28th April 2000, 02:54
What about this:
http://www.hardocp.com/articles/3dfx/v600001a.JPG

No way I'm going to let that beast near my computer.

SteveC
28th April 2000, 03:25
IS THAT the Voodoo5? Good heavens! The card'll bend upwards with all thos fans - It'll suck itself right out of the PC, nevermind just the slot!

http://forums.murc.ws/ubb/smile.gif

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Cheers,
Steve

"Life is what we make of it, yet most of us just fake"

Corwin_Brute
28th April 2000, 04:15
Yes, and don't forget all the nice features of the last NVidia teaser ("you will have more frag counts", "you will be more productive", "you will tell your friends"...). Couldn't help but bastardize it (lower in the SoapBox), sorry...

At least, all 3DFx Voodoo 5 6k will be able to answer, "Yes, but mine is bigger than yours !" http://forums.murc.ws/ubb/wink.gif

And, as paulcs pointed, Matrox was able to obtain an enormous 50 more Gs just with the die shrinking process, which is very impressive to say the least (that is 12.5% more Gs !), whereas 3DFx has to use multiple chips to get roughly 57% more Vs (from V3 3500 to V5 5500).

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Corwin the Brute

SCompRacer
28th April 2000, 06:10
Does that thing come with gussets and braces to help support all that length and weight?

Jord
28th April 2000, 06:29
Probably 2 sucking and 2 blowing fans to counter-effect eachother. Although I do miss the slot-bracket... how does one attach it to the PC casing? Glue it in? http://forums.murc.ws/ubb/wink.gif

Jord.

SteveC
28th April 2000, 08:06
I bet you that at least half of the PCs that this card will be bought for will have a hard drive in the way of the card. I know in my brother's and dad's PC this card hasn't a hope in hell of fitting!

And Jorden - Glue is only used if you have a PC by ESCOM - now, who remembers them? And who bought a PC from them?

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Cheers,
Steve

"Life is what we make of it, yet most of us just fake"

ALBPM
28th April 2000, 08:34
Hey Rowan, which card is that??? Looks like a Quantum 3D logo to the left of the Intel chip.

Paul

DuRaNgO[MU]
28th April 2000, 08:41
nice fit, eh?
http://www.hardocp.com/articles/3dfx/v6000vaioa.JPG

paulcs
28th April 2000, 09:37
Four fans! And an external power connector. Now I really want one of those. I want one for free, however. $600.00 is a little steep. Now if it had four round fans and it was blue ...

Here's another picture of the V5 6000 and its four fans:

http://www.stomped.com/pics/winhec/v5_6000_1.jpg

Paul
paulcs@flashcom.net

Jord
28th April 2000, 12:09
Say Steve, (btw, welcome back old buddy),

I owned an Escom 486, for about 8 months, then refurbished it into a Cyrix 166+, quickly saved money for a new casing with an Asus P2B with a P2-266, asked for 64Mb SDRAM and got 128Mb ( http://forums.murc.ws/ubb/wink.gif) and after about a year all left of the original ESCOM was the case sitting forlorn in the garage with a Cyrix (bleh!) 166+ in it http://forums.murc.ws/ubb/smile.gif

I did rip out all jumpers and re-usable screws.

That about answers your question? http://forums.murc.ws/ubb/wink.gif

Jord.

merchant2112
28th April 2000, 17:25
i don't want a video card i want fron rear and side holo projectors. now that would be a game of ut/quake/counter strike /ect.....

The Rock
28th April 2000, 20:43
There's a big bonus that comes with that Voodoo 5 6000: if anyone breaks into your house/apt., and you don't have quick access to a baseball bat or a knife, you can beat the burgular to death with the V5.

The Rock
www.3dforce.com (http://www.3dforce.com)

HollyBerri
28th April 2000, 22:39
Oh, yes, because -- amazing, but true -- it is faster to:
detatch the monitor cable,
remove the retaining screw (I mean, I'll give you "the side of the case is off" for free, but ya gotta use the retaining screw!!!),
unhook the power leads and cables that prevent you from moving the stupid thing more than a quarter inch (with appropriate grunting and sweating, using teeth when necessary), and,
lever the doggone thing out of the tiny space you've wedged it into between your removeable drive bay and the power supply--
--- than it is to hie your butt to the kitchen and get a BFK(nife)....

No, it's true. Really. We have charts and stuff. http://forums.murc.ws/ubb/icons/icon2.gif

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Holly

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SCompRacer
28th April 2000, 23:47
http://www.stomped.com/pics/winhec/v5_6000_1.jpg

It could be that I am too critical, but I would have orientated the four fans with the names in the same direction before taking the photo.

HollyBerri
29th April 2000, 11:59
Yes, SCompRacer, you <u>are</u> too critical... after all, these are Internet PC hardware sites, often run by young and/or busy people who have enough issues to deal with in the realms of content, management and editing without being expected to be accountable for the finer points of elegant and attractive photo composition.

It does look silly, though http://forums.murc.ws/ubb/wink.gif

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Holly

Jorden
29th April 2000, 12:25
Not only that, but you'd at least hold the card lower, so the emblem on your shirt is good visible, so people don't have to guess http://forums.murc.ws/ubb/wink.gif

And maybe make sure your name doesn't show... who wants to be known to all internet folk as Bubba ?? http://forums.murc.ws/ubb/wink.gif

Jord.

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SCompRacer
29th April 2000, 13:55
I guess I will have to expect less of them than.

HollyBerri
29th April 2000, 15:14
That's the ticket, SCompRacer!!!

Honestly!!! Expecting <u>more</u> from people and organizations? What COULD you have been thinking???!!!

Lowest common denominator, that's the way to go around <u>here</u>....

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http://forums.murc.ws/ubb/icons/icon2.gif Holly, leaving "here" to go "there"...feel free to start singing "Over The Rainbow" anytime here, guys.... http://forums.murc.ws/ubb/icons/icon2.gif

Jorden
29th April 2000, 15:28
As she hates embeded audio, I'll at least leave it on the original page. But here goes to Over the Rainbow lyrics and music (http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Hills/6396/rainbow.htm)

Now sing, guys http://forums.murc.ws/ubb/smile.gif

Jord.

Jammrock
1st May 2000, 07:06
Sine we're on the break in tangent, did you know that the best thing to hide behind in your house if you are being shot at (by a burgler or an ex-) is the TV, if you have a tube, or a computer monitor. You can't hide your entire body behind them mind you, but the vital stuff you can.

CRT's have anywhere from 2-4 inches (5-10 cm) of glass in the tube, and the flatter/bigger the screen, the thicker the glass. I've shot TV tubes with 306 rifles before and the bullets have bounced off. So if you hide behind one of those new Sony Wega's, you'd need a bazooka to go through that thing.

Hopefully no one will need go to that extreme. I find it funny whenever someone shoots a TV in the movies with a 38 special and it blows up the TV. A 38 special may be able to take out 13" screen...maybe.

Jammrock

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