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  • PD5 + G200 + ASUS P5A = Crash !

    Hi all.

    I have posted about this problem earlier, without
    much success, and I'm trying again now that
    people have had time to familiarize with PD5...

    My problem, see system specs at the end:

    After going through the installation instructions of
    Kruzin/Matrox to the letter, when finally
    restarting after the PD5 installation,
    Windows does not load anymore.
    It goes on until the desktop is supposed to appear,
    but then completely freezes with a black screen.
    Sometimes there is an error message about a
    "windows protection error at blaa blaa",
    and sometimes not, just black screen.

    Whether I use the uninstaller or the "manual" approach
    does not make any difference. However, I can always
    easily return to the 4.33c drivers, in which case
    I have no problems whatsoever. I've had my SS7+G200
    combination for almost a year now, and I've gone through
    all the driver versions and BIOSes etc. Now I am at the
    point where I don't have problems with games or other
    software. Except that with PD5 nothing works. I really
    thought I had finally mastered my system, but here we go again...

    Not that it matters so much. I've waited for the ICD about a year
    now, so a couple of weeks more do not make any difference.
    As I said, 4.33c drivers work without problems, so I get by with them fine,
    but I'd still like to know the what can cause such a total
    malfunction in my system...

    My normal solution at this point would have been format c:\, and then reinstalling
    Windows 98, but I can't do it now, since I have some other stuff installed on c that I can't lose
    (not until the end of summer, but I'd rather not wait that long...)

    Does anyone else have this problem ?
    I know I'm in a minority with my SS7 -board here...

    My system:

    AMD k6-2 300
    ASUS P5A (bios 1007)
    Millenium G200 AGP (bios 2.3)
    128 MB RAM
    SB 16 ISA (old, I know)
    Hyundai 15Pro
    Windows 98

    previously had 4.33c certified drivers,
    no ICD beta installed
    Current System:

    AMD K6-2 300@350
    ASUS P5A bios v1007a
    128 MB RAM
    Sound Blaster 16 ISA
    Millennium G200 8MB bios v2.6
    4.33c certified driver
    Hyundai DeluxScan 15 Pro
    Windows 98
    Ali AGP driver v1.6
    Ali IDE driver v3.40

  • #2
    strange ...

    try one more uninstallation using the uninstaller.
    after reboot, cancel that request of installing a standard PCI gfx adapter.

    goto your 'windows\inf\other' directory and see if there's any Matrox*.inf file, if so, delete it and install PD5.13 via the setup.exe.

    ....

    Another idea would be to find out whether your MoBo requires any kind of Busmastering and/or AGP drivers ... check that and update if neccessary.

    ------------------
    Cheerio,
    Maggi

    I used to have some posts in my record and hopefully some of the guys 'n' girls will still know me and my system ...
    Despite my nickname causing confusion, I am not female ...

    ASRock Fatal1ty X79 Professional
    Intel Core i7-3930K@4.3GHz
    be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 2
    4x 8GB G.Skill TridentX PC3-19200U@CR1
    2x MSI N670GTX PE OC (SLI)
    OCZ Vertex 4 256GB
    4x2TB Seagate Barracuda Green 5900.3 (2x4TB RAID0)
    Super Flower Golden Green Modular 800W
    Nanoxia Deep Silence 1
    LG BH10LS38
    LG DM2752D 27" 3D

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    • #3

      It worked ! ...if only for a moment.

      This is weird. For a while, the new
      drivers worked like a dream. I got the
      new powerdesk. I rebooted couple of times,
      and it still worked. Games worked: Unreal ran
      with D3D better than ever. Half-Life ran
      with OpenGL without any problems or hiccups.
      Playability was smoother and it looked better.
      No garbled textures or twitches with sound effects.
      Nor Colin McRae Rally or Thief had those corrupted
      textures that appeared with 4.51 drivers.
      They also seemed to run a bit faster.

      Then I shut down the computer, a happy man.
      Three hours later it did not work anymore.
      It's a bit different this time. Windows
      loads "fine", but the desktop graphics are
      a mess. Its like a TV on a dead channel, only with
      rainbow colours. You cant even tell the icons from
      the backround...

      Again back with the 4.33c drivers with no
      problems. When I have time, I'll try again...

      So, the only thing different compared
      to what I did earlier was not to allow
      windows to install the standard VGA/PCI adapter.
      Why this is such a crucial point ?
      What is the big difference between 4.33 and 5.13
      that makes 4.33 so reliable and 5.13 so unreliable?

      Another thing is that the PD5 installer didn't
      seem to work. It appeared to "finish" the install
      without copying any files anywhere.
      ( i.e. the "install" time was just a blink )
      In the reboot, Windows still started to search for
      drivers for the "new" display adapter. I pointed
      it to the "mgafold" directory and it found
      PD5 and only then proceeded to install it
      properly. So the previous attempt with the PD5
      "setup" didn't do anything, it seems.

      And then the drivers worked fine for a moment
      and then stopped working again... go figure!

      Note: As far as I understand, I have the newest
      AGP/Busmastering drivers from ASUS, and according
      to their homepage my BIOS version (the newest)
      should have all the compatibility problems with the
      Ali Aladdin chipset and G200 based
      video cards solved. Yes of course

      Propably going to post more questions
      in the future...
      Current System:

      AMD K6-2 300@350
      ASUS P5A bios v1007a
      128 MB RAM
      Sound Blaster 16 ISA
      Millennium G200 8MB bios v2.6
      4.33c certified driver
      Hyundai DeluxScan 15 Pro
      Windows 98
      Ali AGP driver v1.6
      Ali IDE driver v3.40

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      • #4
        do you use a SCSI interface ?
        if so, make sure the termination is set up properly ...

        do you have any PCI card stuck into the slot right next to the AGP port ?
        if so, try to plug that into another slot and leave the one next to AGP empty ...

        ------------------
        Cheers,
        Maggi

        Asus P2B-S @ 112MHz FSB - Bios 1009 final
        Celeron300A @ 504Mhz
        128MB 7ns SDRAM
        G400 DualHead 32MB SGRAM @ 201 MHz memory clock

        I'll be on holiday for the coming three weeks and I miss you folks already ;-)
        Despite my nickname causing confusion, I am not female ...

        ASRock Fatal1ty X79 Professional
        Intel Core i7-3930K@4.3GHz
        be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 2
        4x 8GB G.Skill TridentX PC3-19200U@CR1
        2x MSI N670GTX PE OC (SLI)
        OCZ Vertex 4 256GB
        4x2TB Seagate Barracuda Green 5900.3 (2x4TB RAID0)
        Super Flower Golden Green Modular 800W
        Nanoxia Deep Silence 1
        LG BH10LS38
        LG DM2752D 27" 3D

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        • #5
          Gee. these questions and remarks are way too long!! Just make sure that FRAME BUFFER POST WRITE is disable in your BIOS. You can also disable pipeline caching. Be sure to have all the latest Bus Mastering and AGP patches..

          Ciao

          Ben

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