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  • G400 max -- Where to buy?

    I'm building a new computer and have decided that the G400 max + Rainbow runner G Series is the video solution for me.

    Problem is, I can't find the G400 max anywhere. I've heard it's been discontinued. Is there anywhere I can still get it new?

    If not, are there any cards in current production that support the Rainbow Runner G Series AND support two PC Monitors on the Dual-Head (i.e. not the 400tv or 450etv, which appear to only support monitor + tv)

    Thanks.

  • #2
    Get a regular G400 dualhead. It will support the RRG too.

    Rags

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    • #3
      wanna buy mine? =)

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      .:880Mhz Deathtrap:.
      • Lite-On FS020 enclosure w/4 120mm Panaflos and soon a 172mm Nidec
      • MSI 694D Pro w/ BIOS 1.6
      • 2x800E cC0 Pentium 3 w/ 2xGolden Orb
      • SyncMAX(NEC) PC166 VCM SDRAM 4x128mb w/ CAS = 1
      • Matrox G400MAX 176/219
      • And other non-important stuff like hard drives and a dvd drive
      • Pineapples
      First Love:
      • Lite-On FS020 enclosure w/4 120mm Panaflos and soon a 172mm Nidec
      • MSI 694D Pro w/ BIOS 1.6
      • 2x800E cC0 Pentium 3 w/ 2xVolcanoII
      • SyncMAX(NEC) PC166 VCM SDRAM 4x128mb w/ CAS = 1
      • nVidia Quadro2 Pro, but Matrox at heart
      • And other non-important stuff like hard drives and a dvd drive
      • Pineapples


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      • #4
        WaR-ped, how can your G400 Max be at 176/219
        ? That doesn't seem possible. It either has to be at 176/234 or 164/219. 176core speed and 219memory just can't go together, unless you changed the multipliers.
        Primary system specs:
        Asus A7V266-E | AthlonXP 1700+ | Alpha Pal8045T | Radeon 8500 | 256mb Crucial DDR | Maxtor D740X 40gb | Ricoh 8/8/32 | Toshiba 16X DVD | 3Com 905C TX NIC | Hercules Fortissimo II | Antec SX635 | Win2k Pro

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        • #5
          and why wouldn't he be able to change the multiplyer???

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          • #6
            It is possible, but not recommendable; you see, the G4x0 was tuned for a 3/4 core speed/mem speed ratio. Increasing the memory speed more than the ratio core speed or the core speed more than the ratio mem speed could result in SLOWER PERFORMANCE, because say 1/3 of a cycle time would be wasted say each two cycles... you better stick to ratios like 1/2, 3/4 or 1/1. By default, the Ratio on the G4x0 is 3/4 (G400 and G450, even the LE version), so I recommend you stick with the 3/4 ratio... Anyway, you might have notice that your system showed almost now gain or even a slight loss of performance going from a 164 core speed to 179 MHz; this is due to those memory timing issues...

            Waiting for the G550 and hoping for the best
            Francis

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            - ATI Radeon HD2900PRO & Matrox Millennium G550 PCIe
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            • #7
              Oh yeah, I forgot: buy a G400

              You'll have Dual-Head, G-Runner compatibility and you be able to overclock it to "greater-than-MAX" level

              EG: the MAX is clocked @ 150core/200 mem, and I overclocked my G400 DH (which I bought in August 1999) to overclock it to 175/233 with just a little added cooling.

              Take care,
              Francis

              ------------------
              What was necessary was done yesterday;
              We're currently working on the impossible;
              For miracles, we ask for a 24 hours notice ...
              What was necessary was done yesterday;
              We're currently working on the impossible;
              For miracles, we ask for a 24 hours notice ...

              (Workstation)
              - Intel - Xeon X3210 @ 3.2 GHz on Asus P5E
              - 2x OCZ Gold DDR2-800 1 GB
              - ATI Radeon HD2900PRO & Matrox Millennium G550 PCIe
              - 2x Seagate B.11 500 GB GB SATA
              - ATI TV-Wonder 550 PCI-E
              (Server)
              - Intel Core 2 Duo E6400 @ 2.66 GHz on Asus P5L-MX
              - 2x Crucial DDR2-667 1GB
              - ATI X1900 XTX 512 MB
              - 2x Maxtor D.10 200 GB SATA

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              • #8
                I conclude that 176/219 is virutally IMPOSSUBLE to get. I've been playing with MGAtweak for a bit.

                Unless I missed something, the ONLY way to get 176/219 with the supplied multipliers in MGA tweak is with a 440 System PLL clock, which, unless you use some sort of magic, is un-attainable with a G400/MAX. The G400/MAX doens't like any PLL clock higher than 320, so how the hell are you gonna reach 440?

                System PLL Clock=440mhz.

                GCLK divider= 2.50, GCLK = 176mhz
                MCLK divider= 2.00, MCLK = 220


                Those are the only possible settings to get a 176/219 setting. Now please explain that
                DZues or War-ped.

                [This message has been edited by EvilDonnyboy (edited 08 April 2001).]
                Primary system specs:
                Asus A7V266-E | AthlonXP 1700+ | Alpha Pal8045T | Radeon 8500 | 256mb Crucial DDR | Maxtor D740X 40gb | Ricoh 8/8/32 | Toshiba 16X DVD | 3Com 905C TX NIC | Hercules Fortissimo II | Antec SX635 | Win2k Pro

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