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cbman
13th March 2001, 17:19
All righty... I have done some more reasearch on my wicked new card... here is some of the information.

CHIP INFO :

MATROX MGA
Power Graphics
IS-ATHENA R1
9426KK212

It has 2 Megs of Ram.. is picked up as an Ultima/Impression but is actually a QVision2000+ from compaq... it has no jumpers or ram addon slots.. but it does have a connector that looks like a large scsi connector (External..) with 82 contacts on the inside of it...

Any Ideas.

:-P

Kruzin
13th March 2001, 18:01
Ideas about what?

It's an old card, basically useless with any "current" games or software, and would make a lovely door stop.

What kind of info are you looking for?

cbman
13th March 2001, 18:57
I was wondering what kinda door I should stop it with.. LOL...

No.. actually I am looking for some information on the card itself (Apparently the QVision 2000 is based on the MGA II Ultima Chipset) so that I can find out some more information on it (compaq has nothing except a driver revision for it).... I am well aware that it is usless for games (I never planned on playing any with this system anyways.)

If anyone knows of some Tech Data Sheets on the old Ultima/Impression line of video cards I would like to see them... (Oh and I already have the PDF from Matrox)

FrankDC
13th March 2001, 20:59
What specific info are you looking for? Bundled OEM cards rarely come with separate manuals or spec sheets.

cbman
13th March 2001, 21:14
One would be what the hell the connector on the side of the card is for... and another is whether or not it has EEPROM (I doubt it because its socketed) and also what the last unofficial drivers were made for it and lastly if its OC/able in any way..

Mainly all of this is just for the fun of it.. I don't have much to do (my original post in the general hardware explains my current situation) I think it was called Back after a long absense.. or something like that... and to possibly learn more about where graphics cards came from ... oh and for those people who like benchmark scores... LOL.. here is my "New" systems Wintune scores.. *grin*

Summary
Intel Pentium
(1) 90 MHz
Windows 98 4.10.2222 A
Matrox MGA Ultima/Impression PCI
1024x768@16bits/pixel
222 MIPS (Integer operations)
101 MFLOPS (Floating point operations)
15 (Integer application simulation)
11 (Floating point application simulation)
-1 (MMX application simulation)
10 Video MPixels/s
1.6 OpenGL MPixels/s
2.8 Direct3D MPixels/s
10 Direct3D Null driver score
1.9 Direct3D Primary driver score
79 RAM MB/s
15 cached disk MB/s
1.3 uncached disk MB/s

Talk about some killer scores.. *grin*

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kjliew
14th March 2001, 10:01
Matrox developers' website has the register-level specs for Athena chip. With that kind of information, it could be possible to overclock. I don't think there is any software designed to overclock Athena, anyway if you're interested you can write one for your own use. But still depends if it's using programmable PLL or crystal oscillator as clock source. Earlier Matrox chip doesn't seem to have integrated RAMDAC, if the programmable PLL comes from the external RAMDAC, you may need the RAMDAC datasheets, most probably from TI.

If I remember correctly, Matrox drivers archives also has drivers for Athena.

cbman
14th March 2001, 10:36
Thanks man.. I will look into it.. and if I do find it.. anyone have any tips for programming such a program in C++ or COBOL.. it sounds like it could be a fun project..

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cbman
14th March 2001, 10:44
Ok.. LOL.. I have hit my first road block... to get the Datasheets for the Athena Processing chip I need to be a developer with a password.. anyone here a developer for matrox with a password who can take pity on a poor guy with an Athena.. maybe send the sheets to me via e-mail or something..

*beggin on my knees*

Hmmm maybe the password is Condor II LOL http://forums.murc.ws/ubb/tongue.gif

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xortam
14th March 2001, 10:51
Just apply to be a developer.

Why don't you try APL if you're considering COBOL. http://forums.murc.ws/ubb/smile.gif Personally, I'd write it in assembler. Second choice would be ANSI C.

cbman
14th March 2001, 11:26
LOL.. I would apply to be a developer if I knew how to develop anything.. I took Computer Engineering in school and it didn't cover programming too well... (Basic C++) and Cobol I am teaching myself) But I did learn how to use Assebly.. but we didn't get any further than manipulation of a stepper motor and creation of a keypad program... LOL

I would really like to know more though as it could become a really fun way to waste time..

http://forums.murc.ws/ubb/biggrin.gif

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[This message has been edited by cbman (edited 14 March 2001).]

Colin Morey
14th March 2001, 13:20
Just apply dude

cbman
14th March 2001, 13:35
Ok.. I just submitted an application...

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Greebe
14th March 2001, 16:55
Well lets see if Rom will help you out... I asked him this afternoon if he would (it's an old, grossly outdated and obsolete anyways, what harm could it do? http://forums.murc.ws/ubb/smile.gif

cbman
14th March 2001, 17:29
I don't know... maybe they discovered that if you quad pump the clocks and up the memory amount to 64MB while increasing the bus width to 256 that it would kill even the newest cards out today.. LOL

(Im' telling you.. I might be onto something.. LOL)

*for those of you who think I was being serious.. I am not..*

Thanks Greebe

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Greebe
14th March 2001, 19:22
update... the Qvision card is made by Compaq, Matrox only supplied the ASIC... finding drivers/tech docs for this one looks next to impossible. http://forums.murc.ws/ubb/frown.gif

cbman
14th March 2001, 21:21
Well... the Athena documents are a start eh... It said it may take up to a week to get a password to the developers site... This card was made back in the day when anything with compaq on the label was highly modified.. hell I remember them telling me back when I had a compaq 486 that they recommended I get a special compaq version of windows95... LOL

Thanks anyways... maybe I will send compaq an email...


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kjliew
15th March 2001, 18:01
C/C++ and assembly are the preferred languages for such development. I don't know how well COBOL can access to I/O ports and physical memory. Also, you can always refer to MystCLK and MillCLK source codes for examples in assembler, or G200CLK in C/C++.

cbman
15th March 2001, 18:36
That I might have to do.. even though it may take me a while to figure out exactly what I am doing it should pass for some infomative amusment that may look good on a resume... as it stands though I still have to wait to see if its even programmable... if not I wonder if you could replace the clock signal generator with one of a higher signal rate.

(For those of you who know of the composition of or engineering of vid cards.. please be nice... I couldn't take advanced hardware design in school.. so what I say may just not be possible)

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