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  • 64bit DDR vs 128bit SDR....

    Can anyone comment on any differences between the two? My (admittedly simple) reasoning would be that they would yield exactly the same bandwidth.
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    DS
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  • #2
    Your assumption is correct.
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    • #3
      64 DDR is a tiny fraction slower than 128 SDR.

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      • #4
        I figured as much..thanks guys!
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        • #5
          My Question is why did they switch to a lower bandwidth for the memory. If they would have stuck with the 128bit bus I would be alot more interested in buying this prodeuct and would try o/cing that son of a bitch and getting a some extra performance outta of it.

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          • #6
            My Question is why did they swith to a lower bandwidth for the memory.
            they changed to the 64bit data path to reduce the traces, this greatly reduces the costs of production...
            And being an Office geared unit, Cost is #1

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            • #7
              It would seem to be cheaper...for example pricing on SDR Geforce MXs around here is around $200, while the DDR Creative Labs card is $170.

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              • #8
                It would have been nice if they came out with a MAX version of the G450 with the 128bit bus and a higher core speed and then the G450 wouldn't have been a big flop.

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                • #9
                  ski, that would be assuming it would apply the the cost/marketing intentions... this card is doing exactly what they planned for their target market. So with the reduced cost in mind and meeting their expectations what's the flop? Would you say the same about the G250? NO
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by ski:
                    ... If they would have stuck with the 128bit bus I would be alot more interested in buying this product and would try o/cing that son of a bitch and getting a some extra performance outta of it ...
                    Well, it's up to you if you don't wanna try OCing a card that runs on a 64bit bus, but I gave it a shot ...

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Greebe:
                      ski, that would be assuming it would apply the the cost/marketing intentions... this card is doing exactly what they planned for their target market. So with the reduced cost in mind and meeting their expectations what's the flop? Would you say the same about the G250? NO
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                      • #12
                        What the hell is a "Memeber" ?

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                        • #13
                          hehe
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                          • #14
                            I am lazy damnnit leave me alone

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                            • #15
                              Okay I see my post **** up I was trying to say that the Millennium II was all the business world needs and the G400 only offers dualhead which is an awesome technology, but hardly used in the real word.

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