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  • VIA + Live + G400: did anyone manage?

    Hi! I tried to build a system a few days ago consisting of an Epox 3VBA motherboard (Apollo Pro Plus UDMA66), a SB Live! and a G400. The G400 worked fine with the mobo but when I added the Live! (no IRQs shared, SB16 Emulation disabled) all hell broke loose. Every time I booted into Win98 (SE) I got some registry error message and after a while I even started getting even major screen corruption.

    I replaced the G400 with the G200 in my own system and got identical problems. I later used a PCI ATI board and things calmed down but now I get tremendous CPU utilization when using the Live! Did anyone manage to combine the Apollo Pro+ (or any other VIA chipset for that matter) with a Live! and a matrox AGP card?
    Asus A7V, Duron 600@900, 192MB PC133@100, G200, Guillemot MUSE, etc.

  • #2
    Sorry, I forgot to post the specs:

    Epox 3VBA VIA Apollo Pro Plus mobo w/ UDMA66 AGP 3.59 drivers (tried an older version on the bundled Epox CD as well)

    Matrox G400 16MB / G200 8MB, both AGP, tried drv. ver. 5.30 and 5.41 IRQ11 unshared

    SB Live! Value drv. 4.06.704 (of 8.26.1999)IRQ 9 unshared (emulation disabled)
    Asus A7V, Duron 600@900, 192MB PC133@100, G200, Guillemot MUSE, etc.

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    • #3
      I've got that exact setup working but with a Epox MVP3G2 mobo. I needed to install via's 4in1 driver to get it to work properly though.

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      • #4
        I did install the 4-in-one.
        Asus A7V, Duron 600@900, 192MB PC133@100, G200, Guillemot MUSE, etc.

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        • #5
          Have you tried Win98 (not SE)? My Epox runs happily with G400 and SB Live! under original 98, but I had serious problems with Win98SE on some other machine.

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          • #6
            I have them all working happily. The G400 dropped to 1x after I upgraded to the Live! card from a Diamond S90. Running Windows98se with all updates. PD 5.41, Bios 1.3, directX 7.1a. My only problem is when I tried installing a PCI nic, nothing likes sharing an IRQ with it. Live! wouldn't even let Windows recognise the nic.

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            Matrox G400 32mb DH, K6-3/450, Epox MVP3G-M, 128 mb PC 133, WD 10.2gb, Pio 32x CDROM, LS-120, Adaptec 2940U2W, Yamaha CDRW4416, Pio DVD-303, SBlive platinum, 3COM 3c509, HP 712c, HP 6200

            Mine: Epox EP-8KTA3, Matrox G400 32mb DH + RRG, Athlon 1.2/266, 256mb, WD 30gb ATA100, Pio 32x CDROM, Adaptec 2940U2W, WD 18.3GB 10k U2W, Yamaha CDRW4416, Pio DVD-303, Scsi Zip 100, Seagate 10/20 Gb tape, SBlive platinum, Linksys 10/100 nic, HP 712c printer, HP 6200 scanner, Linksys 4port cable router, Linksys 2port print server/switch
            Hers: Epox EP-3VSA, G400 32mb SH, PIII 750, 256mb, WD 10gb, Pio 6x DVD, Zip 250, Diamond S90, Linksys 10/100 nic

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            • #7
              I have the g400/ sblive Value, and have used them both in an asus p3b-f and a soyo sy6vba133... with no irq conflicts at all.

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              • #8
                disable your usb/com ports if you dont use them

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                k6-3 450 @500 - tyan 1590s bios 1.16 - wdac310100 5400 udma33 - g200 mill sgram w/8mb upgrade & bios 2.6-20 PD 5.41 (DISABLED) - AGP1x (NOT MY CHOICE) - 128MB 10ns sdram - sblive value 3.0 - 4 Boston Acoustics A40's - 3com 3c905b-tx - cable access (28.8k for emergencies) - win98SE
                dx7 - V3 steering wheel/pedals - MS sidewinder PRO


                abit kt7-raid athlon 1ghz quantum 20.4gb - 7200 + wd 200bb - 7200 rpm UDMA100-
                g400 max-
                256MB pc133 sdram - sblive value 3.0 - 4 Boston Acoustics A40's - 3com 3c905b-tx - cable access - winME
                dx7.?- V3 steering wheel/pedals - MS sidewinder PRO
                Kensiko (Netpointe) scrolling mouse

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                • #9
                  I have an Epox MVP3G-M, G400MAX, and SBLive!. I've been running this system trouble free from the day I got my MAX (and even before then when I got my SBLive). Got the MAX on IRQ11, SBLive on IRQ12, Network Card on IRQ10, and USB on IRQ3.

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                  • #10
                    Using Win98SE installed with "setup /pj" for ACPI enabled. Rock solid on VIA MVP3, G400 32MB DH and SBLive w/ LiveWare 3. If you're Win98SE, install only the AGP driver from VIA website. Make sure it is the latest version 3.59.
                    KJ Liew

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                    • #11
                      Hi!
                      That's actually what I did. I first installed the VIA 3.59 AGP driver and skipped the rest (Busmaster, IRQ etc.). But it did not work so I tried the rest as well. Something else strange happens: I put an ATI PCI card instead of the Matrox card and the system is stable. I also put my V2 SLI inside but whenever I use games with sound the performance drop is huge. e.g. I get some 42fps in Unreal without the Live! in the system, but as soon as I put the Live! in the score drops to 33fps. On my own system (see signature) there is absolutely no performance drop.

                      Of course, the exact same components work flawlessly on a ZX motherboard and it seems I will keep it this way although I liked the 3VBA.

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                      Celeron 500, Soyo 6BA+ IV, 128MB PC100, Mill G200 SDRAM 8MB, V2 SLI, SB Live!, Quantum FB CX 10GB UDMA 66


                      [This message has been edited by Livius (edited 05 February 2000).]
                      Asus A7V, Duron 600@900, 192MB PC133@100, G200, Guillemot MUSE, etc.

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                      • #12
                        Make sure that the first driver for the live installed is liveware 3 (or 2.1)
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