just ordered a g400 from matrox. now i see a link selling them for 179.00 oh well paid an extra 20.00 for it from matrox hopefully it will come with in the 1 to 2 week date they have posted. (i couldn't wait for max) im useing a voodoo 3 2000 agp as a temp card (will return that sucker to compusa as soon as g400 comes in.)