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Archon
3rd January 1997, 03:56
I HAVE P2-233,96MB RAM,MARVELL G200,SB LIVE!
WIN2000.
WHILE PLAYING HL OR ITS MODS IN DIRECT3D
EVERYTHING IS OK.
BUT PRESSING ESCAPE I SEE NO MENU,JUST BLACK SCREEN!!!

IN OPENGL EVERYTHING IS OK,BUT A LITTLE BIT SLOWER

MURCer
15th May 2000, 11:41
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Kruzin
15th May 2000, 11:58
HALF LIFE IS A NATIVE OPENGL GAME. IT'S D3D IS NOT SO GREAT, AND DOES NOT SHOW ALL OF THE EFFECTS PROPERLY. SEARCH THESE FORUMS, AND YOU WILL SEE MANY SUGGESTIONS FOR SPEEDING IT UP. THERE WAS A THREAD JUST LAST WEEK WITH MY VIDEO CONFIG FILE, WHICH SHOULD HELP YOUR OGL SPEEDS.

nehalmistry
15th May 2000, 22:31
KRUZIN, KRUZIN, KRUZIN... I HAVE READ SEVERAL FORUMS THAT YOU HAVE TRIED TO CONVINCE PEOPLE THAT HALFLIFE IS NATIVE OPENGL WITH A D3D WRAPPER, BUT THAT DOESNT MEAN THAT THE OPENGL PERFORMANCE IS BETTER WITH THIS SPECIFIC CARD.

HAVE YOU EVER THOUGHT THAT THE G200 ISNT OPTIMIZED(AS WELL AS IT COULD BE) FOR OPENGL... I MEAN COME ON.... HAVE YOU TRIED THE OPENGL DRIVERS.... THEY ARE PURE CRAP....THEY SLOW DOWN DURING ACTION OR HI-DETAIL AREAS(TO UNPLAYABLE FRAME RATES) .... ON THE OTHER HAND... MATROX'S G200 D3D DRIVERS PROVIDE GOOD PERFORMANCE...

IT ALSO DEPENDS ON YOUR MEMORY/PROCESSOR (WHICH MOST PPL MAY LACK VS. YOU KRUZIN)

THE COMBINATION OF
MATROX G200 D3D DRIVERS + HL D3D WRAPPER
IS BETTER THAN
MATROX G200 OPENGL(CRAP) DRIVERS + HL OPENGL NATIVE ENGINE


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P5A-B AMD K6-300
Matrox Milleniumm G200 AGP
Creative SB Awe32 (a classic, superb card)
Realtek 8029A NIC Card
64meg Ram
Ali V agp chipset

Rags
15th May 2000, 22:49
NEHALMISTRY,

HAVE YOU EVER THOUGHT THE REASON WHY YOUR G200 WITH "CRAP" DRIVERS IS SLOW IS BECAUSE OF YOUR CRAP SS7 BOARD WITH A SLOW PROCESSOR, AND ONLY 64MB'S OF RAM? I HAVE USED A G200 FOR HL USING THOSE "CRAP" DRIVERS AND HAVE HAD NO PROBLEMS WITH SPEED, SO LONG AS I DIDN'T HAVE THE RESOLUTION UP TOO HIGH (ABOVE 800X600). THE D3D IN HL IS WORSE THAN OGL, IT IS A HACKED WRAPPER THAT ALLOWS BASIC FUNCTIONALITY TO PLAY THE GAME, BASICALLY IS SUCKS DOGS ASS.

RAGS

Kruzin
15th May 2000, 22:52
I STILL HAVE A G200 RUNNING IN MY SECOND SYSTEM (WHICH UP TILL SATURDAY WAS A CELERON300A). I PLAY THE GAME IN OGL MODE, WITH THE FULL ICD PACKAGED WITH THE DRIVERS. I HAVE BEEN USING IT THIS WAY SINCE G200'S ICD WAS IN BETA.

I STAND BY MY OPINION. OGL IS BETTER FOR THIS GAME. NOT LARGLY FASTER, BUT SLIGHTLY FASTER IF PROPERLY CONFIGURED, AND IT LOOKS BETTER.

Johnny Ray
15th May 2000, 23:12
Listen to the wise-ones here. Before I knew any better, I was running half-life in D3D on my G200. Switched to OpenGL at 800X600 and there's no comparison in the QUALITY of the graphics. Don't recall noticing a change in FPS, but it was VERY playable on my ol' PIII450 and G200 far better in OGL.

John

nehalmistry
16th May 2000, 00:12
OK.. MAYBE.. I WAS JUST TRYING TO EXPLAIN WHY ARCHON WAS GETTING BETTER RESULTS IN D3D. BUT YOU GOTTA ADMIT THAT THE MATROX OPENGL DRIVERS (IN GENERAL NOT JUST FOR HL) AREN'T AS GOOD OR EVEN CLOSE AS GOOD AS THEY SHOULD BE..

AND YOU DONT HAFTA TRY TO CONVINCE ME AT ALL....UNTIL I GET MORE RAM OR A NEW PROCESSOR.. I PLAY IN SOFTWARE MODE(400X300) .... HEY, IT LOOKS LIKE CRAP BUT AT LEAST ITS PLAYABLE...

PS. WHATS WITH THE CAPSLOCK...

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P5A-B AMD K6-300
Matrox Milleniumm G200 AGP
Creative SB Awe32 (a classic, superb card)
Realtek 8029A NIC Card
64meg Ram
Ali V agp chipset

[This message has been edited by nehalmistry (edited 16 May 2000).]

SockPuppet
16th May 2000, 16:17
Kruzin, the cfg you posted the other day
was that for g400 or g200 or both?

i have a g200 on a celeron 400
which still have a little slow down during heavy fire sequences...

it's running on 5.03 driver on win2k at 640x480

Kruzin
16th May 2000, 20:58
I use that same config for both my G200 and G400...only difference being thet I run the G200 in 640x480, and the G400 in 1024x768....