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Sequel
7th October 1999, 01:07
Hello there.

I hope someone can help me here, I have recently bought a G400 and SBLive card,
having upgraded the BIOS to 1.5 on the G400, and installed the VIA 4 in 1 drivers (4.1.3)
as well as the 5.25 version of the Matrox
PD etc, I am having a couple of problems
with some games, notably (and possibly rather sadly! http://forums.murc.ws/ubb/wink.gif) South Park. There is a general
instability of the machine of some games.

The process I went through to install the s/w is :

1. Clean install of Win98
2. Install VIA 4-in-1 drivers
3. Install DirectX 6.1
4. Install Matrox PD 5.25 (and drivers etc)
5. Install SBLive drivers

Not too sure of the relevance of this, but after all this I installed the Win98 service pack 1.

Most games work fine, but there are a couple
which do not, South Park for instance just bombs out completely if a lot is happening
on screen.

Anyone any ideas of what to do next, or any drivers / s/w i've not installed etc.?

Thanks in advance.

Chris Blake
7th October 1999, 02:42
If you installed the VIA AGP driver in turbo mode. Try reinstalling it in normal mode.

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Chris Blake
7th October 1999, 05:16
Trubo mode (VIA's terminology) means that the driver is running your AGP at x2 or 66Mhz rather than 33Mhz (x1 or "Normal" Mode). Some motherboards, socket 7 especially, are not very stable running AGP at x2. The symptoms of this will only show when you run games that put a load on the AGP. I bet you can't run Quake3Test, Re-Volt or Mechwarrior3 for any length of time without them locking or dumping you back to the desktop either.

Setting the AGP driver to x1 or "Normal" will give you greater system stability and unless you're running benchmarks, you'll probably not notice any difference in performance.


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Sequel
7th October 1999, 16:44
As it happens, I did install the turbo mode, but what does this do, compared with the
normal mode? And, any ideas why this would impact only a couple of games?

Thanks in advance.

Martin

Wombat
7th October 1999, 22:47
Chris was pretty much right-on with that last post, except for some nit-picking:
AGP 1x is 66Mhz, AGP 2x is 133Mhz.

http://forums.murc.ws/ubb/smile.gif

Chris Blake
7th October 1999, 23:53
I know, I know. I shouldn't try and explain anything technical after an afternoon in the pub. Doh!

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Chris Blake

Sequel
8th October 1999, 00:42
Hi.

I tried the normal mode thing last night. It
worked quite well to start off with, the game
played for a while, and then it dumped me back to the desktop again, and again, and again... ;(

Also, i'm also having trouble when installing
games using InstallShield. Games like Unreal (which I know there's a patch for once its
installed!) just won't install, I get a
GPF with some filename like _ins5162._mp

Any other ideas of what I could try?

Chris Blake
8th October 1999, 03:50
Try loading up the new VIA service pack. I installed it yesterday and since then Re-Volt runs without crashing.

http://www.via.com.tw/

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Sequel
8th October 1999, 07:11
Hello.

I just downloaded the the 4.1.4 drivers from
VIA (i assume these are what you mean?), I
haven't applied them yet, but all I can see
that has changed is the IDE BusMaster driver
(2.1.43), which I thought only controlled the
HDD/CD drives?

Any Ideas on the InstallShield thing?

Martin

Chris Blake
8th October 1999, 07:48
Can't help you with the uninstall shield problem but there are a few other things:

1. Are you running the SBLive 2.1 drivers? If not get them.
2. Is your SBlive card in the slot next to the AGP? If it is move it to another slot.
3. Increase Graphics Apature Size to greater than 64Mb.
4. Disable primary frame buffer.
5. May be the 5.30 will help? (Clutching at straws here).

Is the 5AGM2 motherboard a Gigabyte? I went through all this with my Gigabyte GA-5AX board, although that was ALi chipset, not VIA. In the end I chucked it for an Epox MVP3G5 I hate to say it butů you know.

Hope you get it sorted, I know how frustrating it is.


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Chris Blake

Epox MVP3G5, K6III450, 192Mb RAM, G400Max DH, SBLive! Value and whole load of other stuff

[This message has been edited by Chris Blake (edited 10-08-1999).]